Anybody driven the 18" stock tires in the snow up there yet? I'm still debating on getting some 18" stock wheels/tires and switching over my 19's for the winter or getting some all-seasons or snow tires for my track model. I was also looking for some other 18" wheel/tire packages, but it is so confusing trying to figure out what will fit unless somebody has actually tried them already...
Honestly.. I dont think the 18s will work.. LOL.. I have the 18s, and Im not going to risk it. Its a summer compound in my eyes, wont deal with the cold weather very well
Dang it and I found a set in near new condition for a little less than snow tires for my 19's. The tread sure does look a lot more aggressive than my summers though...
Oh ya the tread is definitely more agressive... But read all the reviews about all season tires. If you get snow frequently, I wouldnt even risk it. All season in my mind is for those who drive in near winter conditions. Seldomly drive on snow packed or freshly snowed roads. Generally drive on wet/dry cold roads, with the odd minor snowfall. Whats your deductable on insurance? I like to think of it that way. If you have a $1000 deductable, why not pay $1000 now instead of having to pay it when you get in an accident, then your car is never the same again after the repair. Colors never match exact, you know its not "perfect" anymore... just not worth the headache
Threw my tires on this weekend, and they're great!
Little bit more mushy but that happens with the snows. I was more impressed at how the rims ended up looking, and how they fit just like the stockers. A solid winter setup, that's for sure.
Put mine on this weekend too. Rims look great, but dont fit all that well, could use a better offset... and they make a weird noise between 70-75km/h, but quiet down after that. Thinking the balancing might be off (there used)
I got my winter tire set at Tires23 in Mississauga for $940 with everything....taxes, installation, and black steelies....the tires I got were Hankook i*Pike 409
On a premium, with no Brembo your cheapest route lies in 17" steelies with cheap 17" narrow tires. You will loose a lot of the "sportiness" feel of the car on the dry pavement though. Or, buy used 18" winter tires off a G35 or 350z owner, they have similar fitments and swap tires on a single set (OEM) of mags.
for new owners this year (before their first winter)
are you going to keep the stagger or square your setup?
i want to go to 17" steelies (crappy tire has them for $70 each) cause i like the stock 18" rims for summer
17" stagger
215/50/17 fronts
225/55/17 rear
can only swap side to side each year (not gonna buy directional winters)
or
17" square
215/50/17 or 215/55/17 all around (higher sidewall just in case of hidden bumps covered in snow)
this way you can fully rotate them around (not gonna buy directional winters)
If you're going to use the same size all around doesn't that cause major problems with the traction control system (which measures difference in rotation speed side to side AND front to back to determine if you're "spinning") not to mention 215/50 17 are smaller overall circumference by almost 4" (rear) than stock so your odometer's going to be spinning much faster.(car will show more mileage than actual)
I ran a square setup with 18's last winter and no problems whatsoever.. Occasional TKS light going off when going over bumps or dips at higher speeds, but no big deal other than that
To anyone looking for winter tires and rims, don't be afraid to look on kijiji or craigslist also. I just picked up 4 Toyo Observe Garit KX (225/45/18 and 245/45/18) which have only been run for 1200km for $500 flat.
Kijiji and Craiglist are great sources for used wheels and tires. I've bought and sold several sets on kijiji over the past few winters. There are great deals to be found, but you have to look daily and be quick to purchase.
As for new, just wait till October when Tires23 and SimplyTire announce their group buys for winters. They always have great price too.
I'm guessing a set of 17" steelies with decent winners should be around $1000 or $1400 for an 18" set.
Fooling the traction control might be as simple as resetting it. My wifes old Mini Cooper used 17's for the summer and 15's for the winter. When I swapped them when the seasons changed, I simply reset the ECU and I learned to deal with the different sized and weight wheels and tires. As long as the wheels are about the same overall diameter, the ECU probably wont know the difference.
Im shopping for a set of Base/Premium 18's to use for the winter. Maybe even 2 sets so I can use 4 of the same sized tires.
Stock tires on the car are larger overall diameter (and larger width) on the back than on the front.
The first # (215) is the width in millimeters, the second # (50) is the sidewall height and it is a percentage of the width. ie. a 215/50/17 is 215 mm wide, 215 X 50% (or 107.5 mm) sidewall and 17" rim diameter. So the tires total diameter is 17" + (2 X sidewall height)(sidewall above the rim and below the rim). It's easier to use a tire calculator than try to convert back and forth from mm to inches but that's how they figure it out.
A 215/55/17 would be taller because the sidewall height is 55% of the same 215mm width.
Oh.... So with the 18" rims the P225/45VR would have a diameter of 101.25 mm off the rim and the rear P45/45VR would have a diameter of 110.25, a difference of 9 mm. I know in older cars the speedo cable ran down to the transmission so the rear wheels would affect that. If we stick to the diameter of the rears and matched it to the fronts would 9 mm really make any difference? This isn't race track driving but winter driving. Plus it means you can rotate the tires front to back, a big plus for winter driving with RWD.
Your difference is actually twice that because the total diameter of the tire has two sidewalls (one above and one below the rim). But the difference in overall diameter between the front and rear is not a big issue IF your winter tires are close to the stocks (both front and rear) in overall diameter, what I'm saying is the 215/50/17's that were suggested are a little smaller than the front tires (not a problem) and a lot smaller than the rears (problem). If you install 215/55/17s all around they are close enough to both the original front and rear tires diameter to be fine.
I just picked up a set of Goodyear Nordics (225/50-17, 225/55-17) mounted and balanced on black steelies from Crappy Tire for $995 all in. They're on sale right now but I had to teach the "Parts Manager" what the numbers on the side of the tire mean. He kept arguing with me that the stock sizes (225/45-18 and 245/45 -18) were the same diameter because they were both /45-18's and the ones I wanted weren't so he wouldn't sell them to me. I finally had to get him to call a local Hyundai dealership so they could explain it to him.:woah::woah: Then the girl on the cash couldn't figure out how to put two different tire sizes on the same bill so she had to call her "manager" over to do it. :ugh::ugh: And yes I checked them VERY closely when I picked them up.
Tire sizing has been discussed to death on this forum so try doing a "search" and some reading or look at the "Tirerack.com" site (it has everything you ever wanted to know about tires and what fits what - they do their own testing). You should start with the "What do the numbers on the side of the tire mean?" articles.
225 is the width of the tire in mm
50 is the aspect ratio/height of sidewall (50% of 225 is 112.5mm)
18 is the wheel size
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