So it's time to start a new project!!
I BOUGHT A TURBO XS GEN-GT TURBO KIT!! TOP MOUNT BABY!!! WOOOOOO!!!
Seriously this is how I feel right now:
My kit came with the Garrett GTX2867R with Tial V-band turbine housing .64 AR and an AGP 46mm external wastegate. I am excited as f!ck!
I really loved the performance of my TD05-20G ( http://www.gencoupe.com/2-0t-discussion-2008-2012/116331-kinugawa-td05-20g-bolt-turbo-pictures.html ), and I was really ready to do the full t3 conversion to that build, but I ran across this irresistible deal on a very lightly used ( under 1000 miles ) TurboXS GTX2867R kit, and basically I felt morally obligated to buy it. This particular kit was originally purchased for a show car owned by Jesse, the owner of Lumiere Auto Design. He decided almost immediately after installing it ( before even getting tuned, literally within a few hundred mikes of installing ) to go with a different setup. He sold it to Hugo, the owner of Kia Hyundai Auto Repair/ Kia Hyundai Auto Racing/ KHARtunerz. Hugo installed the kit for literally 1 day then came across another deal on a TurboXS GTX3076R kit, and bought that kit instead, then I came along and bought this GTX2867R a couple of weeks later at a price that is , let’s say, well under half retail price. A few days ago, Hugo put down 466whp, 440wtq on e85 with his TXS GTX3076 R kit and a Haltech and the 2013 bottom end.
Here are some shots of Hugo’s car, with the GTX 3076. Mine should look similar in the end only with a slightly smaller turbo:
AGP wastegate installed on Hugo’s car:
Hugo's final dyno sheet:
I think th GTX3076 is the same turbo SteveJohns79 uses with his 2012 style bottom end, and puts down something like 460whp/360wtq. Here is Steve's dyno sheet:
I am NOT GOING FOR HUGE NUMBERS LIKE THAT . Get that idea out of your heads now guys LOL. My goal is 360-370whp with a nice fat powerband, and no more than 330wtq, again with a nice broad and usable torque curve. I’m building my car more for track racing, and not drag racing, so the response really matters. I have always been pleased with the response of my billet wheel 20g, and I expect greater power and faster response than the billet wheel 20g. I also want to experience what it’s like to get away from the restrictive OEM exhaust manifold, which is still too restrictive even when ported by Grimmspeed. Later on once I’ve built my bottom end, maybe in 2015, I can really max out this GTX2867R turbo and maybe hit 400whp/400wtq or higher.
Well, let my top mount project officially begin! May the odds forever be in my favor!
There’s the majority of my kit, laying on the floor like a used whore. That manifold though!
Here’s what TurboXS has to say about this kit on their site:
I’ve already got the TXS FMIC, and Bosch 750CC injectors, and TXS RFL Bov from my existing turbo build, so that stuff carries over with the new kit. However the HOT SIDE intercooler pipe had to be replaced with one specific to this kit, since the pipe is totally different than the OEM style FMIC pipe. The rest of the FMIC kit is identical to what I already have.
Power Goal: 350-400whp on 91 octane. I really think I can hit 360-370 fairly easily.
Let’s get into some parts.
First up, the turbo itself!
Tial V-band turbine housing
Do some of you “ new to turbos” guys understans what makes a V-band setup cool? There are no gaskets, and no bolts/studs/nuts for any part of the turbo/downpipe/manifold. It makes installing and removing the turbo really really easy as everything is held together by “ V-band clamps” that look like giant heavy duty hose clamps for exhaust systems. It’s a really trick setup that allows maximum ease of installation and servicing, and makes swapping turbos an absolute breeze. Something you can do in an hour instead of a day. This TXS setup uses Vband for the turbo to manifold, turbo to downpipe, and for the external wastegate. Outside of any possible lower clearance issues due to the manifold , this should be a much easier kit to install than an OEM style TD05-20G kit.
Speaking of the TD05-20G, here are a couple of pics of the GarrettGTX2867R vs the Kinugawa TD05-20G compressor housing. The Garrett isn’t much bigger at all. However the outside dimensions don’t tell the whole story. I need to track down the flow ratings ( CFM ) for these turbos.
Something else I noticed was that the dual ball bearing CHRA in the GTX2867R turbo is a LOT smaller than the journal bearing CHRA of the TD05-20G
Here are a few shots of the AGP 46mm external wastegate that came with my kit:
Next up is the TXS tubular steel manifold. This thing is built like a tank, really nicely done piece. I can’t wait to try it out.
Now I’ve got some reservations about running a tubular manifold in my daily driver, so we will see how this works out in the coming years. It is going to get ceramic coated before being installed. This time I am going to use Swaintech instead of Grimmspeed for all of my ceramic work. Grimmspeed doesn’t offer the color WHITE, and I’m told that Swaintech is flat out better anyway. Hopefully it doesn’t cost any more than Grimmspeed does lol.
More manifold porn
Next up is the 02 housing. Due to the top mount being higher up in the engine bay, this kit requires a new 02 housing, but at least still ends at the OEM downpipe location so your existing downpipe of any brand should work with it. I have the TXS Racepipe downpipe already so no fitment worries for me.
The new TXS Gen-GT 02 housing includes a port for recirculating the wastegate dump tube ( which is also V-band on one side )
Wastegate and downpipe porn
There are a few other parts in the kit but these are the highlights.
I’m not sure when I will begin installing, within the next 30 days probably. I have to send the downpipe, 02 housing, turbine housing, and manifold off to get white ceramic coated by Swaintech. I’m sure that will take a couple of weeks at least. Once that stuff is back, I’ll jump right into the build, then I’ll have to coordinate with BTR about getting in on their next SoCal tuning event.
The Swaintech coating should look something like this when it’s all done:
Well, that’s it for now guys, I’ll be doing some big updates to this thread very soon!
I BOUGHT A TURBO XS GEN-GT TURBO KIT!! TOP MOUNT BABY!!! WOOOOOO!!!
Seriously this is how I feel right now:
My kit came with the Garrett GTX2867R with Tial V-band turbine housing .64 AR and an AGP 46mm external wastegate. I am excited as f!ck!
I really loved the performance of my TD05-20G ( http://www.gencoupe.com/2-0t-discussion-2008-2012/116331-kinugawa-td05-20g-bolt-turbo-pictures.html ), and I was really ready to do the full t3 conversion to that build, but I ran across this irresistible deal on a very lightly used ( under 1000 miles ) TurboXS GTX2867R kit, and basically I felt morally obligated to buy it. This particular kit was originally purchased for a show car owned by Jesse, the owner of Lumiere Auto Design. He decided almost immediately after installing it ( before even getting tuned, literally within a few hundred mikes of installing ) to go with a different setup. He sold it to Hugo, the owner of Kia Hyundai Auto Repair/ Kia Hyundai Auto Racing/ KHARtunerz. Hugo installed the kit for literally 1 day then came across another deal on a TurboXS GTX3076R kit, and bought that kit instead, then I came along and bought this GTX2867R a couple of weeks later at a price that is , let’s say, well under half retail price. A few days ago, Hugo put down 466whp, 440wtq on e85 with his TXS GTX3076 R kit and a Haltech and the 2013 bottom end.
Here are some shots of Hugo’s car, with the GTX 3076. Mine should look similar in the end only with a slightly smaller turbo:
AGP wastegate installed on Hugo’s car:
Hugo's final dyno sheet:
I think th GTX3076 is the same turbo SteveJohns79 uses with his 2012 style bottom end, and puts down something like 460whp/360wtq. Here is Steve's dyno sheet:
I am NOT GOING FOR HUGE NUMBERS LIKE THAT . Get that idea out of your heads now guys LOL. My goal is 360-370whp with a nice fat powerband, and no more than 330wtq, again with a nice broad and usable torque curve. I’m building my car more for track racing, and not drag racing, so the response really matters. I have always been pleased with the response of my billet wheel 20g, and I expect greater power and faster response than the billet wheel 20g. I also want to experience what it’s like to get away from the restrictive OEM exhaust manifold, which is still too restrictive even when ported by Grimmspeed. Later on once I’ve built my bottom end, maybe in 2015, I can really max out this GTX2867R turbo and maybe hit 400whp/400wtq or higher.
Well, let my top mount project officially begin! May the odds forever be in my favor!
There’s the majority of my kit, laying on the floor like a used whore. That manifold though!
Here’s what TurboXS has to say about this kit on their site:
I’ve already got the TXS FMIC, and Bosch 750CC injectors, and TXS RFL Bov from my existing turbo build, so that stuff carries over with the new kit. However the HOT SIDE intercooler pipe had to be replaced with one specific to this kit, since the pipe is totally different than the OEM style FMIC pipe. The rest of the FMIC kit is identical to what I already have.
Power Goal: 350-400whp on 91 octane. I really think I can hit 360-370 fairly easily.
Let’s get into some parts.
First up, the turbo itself!
Just LOOK AT IT!!
Tial V-band turbine housing
Do some of you “ new to turbos” guys understans what makes a V-band setup cool? There are no gaskets, and no bolts/studs/nuts for any part of the turbo/downpipe/manifold. It makes installing and removing the turbo really really easy as everything is held together by “ V-band clamps” that look like giant heavy duty hose clamps for exhaust systems. It’s a really trick setup that allows maximum ease of installation and servicing, and makes swapping turbos an absolute breeze. Something you can do in an hour instead of a day. This TXS setup uses Vband for the turbo to manifold, turbo to downpipe, and for the external wastegate. Outside of any possible lower clearance issues due to the manifold , this should be a much easier kit to install than an OEM style TD05-20G kit.
Speaking of the TD05-20G, here are a couple of pics of the GarrettGTX2867R vs the Kinugawa TD05-20G compressor housing. The Garrett isn’t much bigger at all. However the outside dimensions don’t tell the whole story. I need to track down the flow ratings ( CFM ) for these turbos.
Something else I noticed was that the dual ball bearing CHRA in the GTX2867R turbo is a LOT smaller than the journal bearing CHRA of the TD05-20G
Here are a few shots of the AGP 46mm external wastegate that came with my kit:
Next up is the TXS tubular steel manifold. This thing is built like a tank, really nicely done piece. I can’t wait to try it out.
Now I’ve got some reservations about running a tubular manifold in my daily driver, so we will see how this works out in the coming years. It is going to get ceramic coated before being installed. This time I am going to use Swaintech instead of Grimmspeed for all of my ceramic work. Grimmspeed doesn’t offer the color WHITE, and I’m told that Swaintech is flat out better anyway. Hopefully it doesn’t cost any more than Grimmspeed does lol.
More manifold porn
Next up is the 02 housing. Due to the top mount being higher up in the engine bay, this kit requires a new 02 housing, but at least still ends at the OEM downpipe location so your existing downpipe of any brand should work with it. I have the TXS Racepipe downpipe already so no fitment worries for me.
The new TXS Gen-GT 02 housing includes a port for recirculating the wastegate dump tube ( which is also V-band on one side )
Wastegate and downpipe porn
There are a few other parts in the kit but these are the highlights.
I’m not sure when I will begin installing, within the next 30 days probably. I have to send the downpipe, 02 housing, turbine housing, and manifold off to get white ceramic coated by Swaintech. I’m sure that will take a couple of weeks at least. Once that stuff is back, I’ll jump right into the build, then I’ll have to coordinate with BTR about getting in on their next SoCal tuning event.
The Swaintech coating should look something like this when it’s all done:
Well, that’s it for now guys, I’ll be doing some big updates to this thread very soon!