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Am I cruising in the wrong gear?

I have a 2.0T 2013 A/T and have never serviced my transmission and I purchased this BK2 a almost 2 years ago. I've always used drive in the city and sport mode on the highway and have realized the engine likes to shift very fastly through all gears while on the highway. Is this normal? I try keeping force from my foot to a minimal but I always catch myself pressing harder waiting for my engine to notice that I want more power. I notice it will try to stay at 8th gear without downshifting unless I completely let go of the gas. How can this be? Someone please help!


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Same thing with the BK1 5 speed auto, it has a stubborn 5th gear, that's how it's programmed from factory to save gas, my wife's jeep Renegade with 9 speed auto it's allot more responsive, one little touch on the throttle and it downshifts right away, 2.4 liter engine feels like a big V6

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Because automatic.

I test drove the 2.0t Premiums and almost stopped wanting a GC at that point. They were so bad; turbo lag mixed in with a transmission that cant figure out what gear to be in but insists on racing itself up the gears to the point of bogging itself down at 45mph. Sport mode didnt help any of that and the only way to alleviate was to drive it with flappy paddles 100% of the time, at which point, might as well get a manual.

Some other brands are getting better with their automatic offerings, but imo the 8AT coupled with the 2.0t isnt one of them. The 3.8 V6 was a little better of a combination with the 8AT but still not great, compared to say the 8AT in a Challenger or whatnot, but those are true legit ZF transmissions. The 8AT in the hyundai is a value-engineered copy.

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Because automatic.

I test drove the 2.0t Premiums and almost stopped wanting a GC at that point. They were so bad; turbo lag mixed in with a transmission that cant figure out what gear to be in but insists on racing itself up the gears to the point of bogging itself down at 45mph. Sport mode didnt help any of that and the only way to alleviate was to drive it with flappy paddles 100% of the time, at which point, might as well get a manual.

Some other brands are getting better with their automatic offerings, but imo the 8AT coupled with the 2.0t isnt one of them. The 3.8 V6 was a little better of a combination with the 8AT but still not great, compared to say the 8AT in a Challenger or whatnot, but those are true legit ZF transmissions. The 8AT in the hyundai is a value-engineered copy.


So in other words I'm basically screwed unless I get the SFR tune? I want to exclusively drive in manual mode because I feel the instant control I gain from dropping a gear but because I have no experience driving stick I worry I'll destroy my transmission. Any tips for shifting? I've only tried it on the highway usually staying in 7 gear cruising and drop to 6 when I'm going downhill and uphill. Maybe a cold air intake minimize lag?"
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So in other words I'm basically screwed unless I get the SFR tune? I want to exclusively drive in manual mode because I feel the instant control I gain from dropping a gear but because I have no experience driving stick I worry I'll destroy my transmission. Any tips for shifting? I've only tried it on the highway usually staying in 7 gear cruising and drop to 6 when I'm going downhill and uphill. Maybe a cold air intake minimize lag?"
A tune will help but I dont recall if SFR or BTR have a tune that adjust transmission shift points. Something to look into and research.

Driving in manual mode shouldnt have any ill effects on the transmission unless you are holding gears far too long, then heat buildup (killer of transmissions) can always cause premature failure.

Modding will help but you are inevitably fighting an uphill battle of wanting the transmission to behave, drive and shift when you want it (like a true manual) and well, thats why some people just stick to true manuals. Theres yet to be an automatic out there that can match the intuitiveness of a stick; they can shift better and faster sure, but they still miss that key point and are always a reactive device.

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A tune will help but I dont recall if SFR or BTR have a tune that adjust transmission shift points. Something to look into and research.



Driving in manual mode shouldnt have any ill effects on the transmission unless you are holding gears far too long, then heat buildup (killer of transmissions) can always cause premature failure.



Modding will help but you are inevitably fighting an uphill battle of wanting the transmission to behave, drive and shift when you want it (like a true manual) and well, thats why some people just stick to true manuals. Theres yet to be an automatic out there that can match the intuitiveness of a stick; they can shift better and faster sure, but they still miss that key point and are always a reactive device.


What's considered holding to long? I guess that's where I'm confused. Letting off throttle causes a nasty jerk when I'm in manual and my only issues are bad caster


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Holding too long means close to redline for too long. Heat builds up through friction, friction increases at speed. In my normal driving (stick) I shift around 3000-3500 RPM. I try to stay between 2K and 3K
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I don't have problems with the shifting on mine, It could be better but I think it's pretty damn good for a 5 speed, now my wife's jeep renegade with a 9 speed is amazing how responsive and hard shifting it is

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