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Galbi · 03-02-2009, 09:31 PM

I've just noticed the engine is open deck. Hmm.. not quite like the 4B11T's (EVO) semi open deck. This means that the engine is more similar to the 4B11(Ralliart) rather then the T version.

Genecrosis · 03-02-2009, 09:43 PM

yea.. nothing a blockguard won't fix though... I give it.... oh a month tops before they're on sale with this car :-P

FRCDAIR · 03-02-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Seraph0503

it's an 86mm bore x 86mm stroke i believe. square engine so should be good to rev to 8000 safely and smoothly. i think stock it revs to 7200.

no...I believe the 4B11 was modified to have a square chamber....the standard theta/world engine doesn't....I might be wrong but i don't think so.

FRCDAIR · 03-02-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim@BeyondRedline

This engine is NOT equipped with any counter balance shafts. I can't recall but does anyone know if the Chrysler or Mitsubishi cousins have them?

no they don't

**Luke@BeyondRedline** · 03-05-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Genecrosis

Are you by chancing putting the rods through any tensile strength tests or the such? You guys are actually going through and doing exactly what I wanted to do with ours in a few months (I want to build our car up through the standard bolt ons route to see what works best and how far stock components can be taken for less money).

Anyways, cracked cap rods aren't hateful. I still prefer a nice forged and machined unit, but the cracked rods worked very well in the srt-4's as well too. Thanks for the info though, I'll be sure to chuck you guys some electronics information once I get my grubby hands on our 2.0t :-P That's also going to be quite interesting on these cars imho, how the DBW reacts to larger map voltages, sweet scaling spots for larger injectors and clamping the map, ahh I can't wait to get to tinkering with a brand new toy :clap:

I won't go as far as tensile strength on the rods, but i will say that for cracked cap rods they are pretty beefy in the right areas. I honestly think the pistons may very well be the weakest link of this setup.

I don't think that the block guard will help this engine much if at all. The block guard in the honda are used for a few different reasons, but because this engine was designed with boost in mind, they have already built in strengths in the block that a honda does not have. The sleeves are actually a lot thicker than what i had initially thought or looked like. Can't wait.

ImAuthenticFTW · 03-05-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke@BeyondRedline

I won't go as far as tensile strength on the rods, but i will say that for cracked cap rods they are pretty beefy in the right areas. I honestly think the pistons may very well be the weakest link of this setup.

I don't think that the block guard will help this engine much if at all. The block guard in the honda are used for a few different reasons, but because this engine was designed with boost in mind, they have already built in strengths in the block that a honda does not have. The sleeves are actually a lot thicker than what i had initially thought or looked like. Can't wait.

so still going with the 450whp limit on stock internals?? or do you think they could handle more?? what about with stronger pistons
(i know this is all guessing at this point)

cant_stop_spinning · 03-05-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron@Realtune

Its not a pony! Its a mermaid silly

WOW. its amazing to see you on here aaron!!!!!

good to know one of the best is on the board!!!!

spooled_u · 03-05-2009, 12:48 PM

Open deck, booooooooooooooo

BlueRB240 · 03-05-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke@BeyondRedline

I won't go as far as tensile strength on the rods, but i will say that for cracked cap rods they are pretty beefy in the right areas. I honestly think the pistons may very well be the weakest link of this setup.

I don't think that the block guard will help this engine much if at all. The block guard in the honda are used for a few different reasons, but because this engine was designed with boost in mind, they have already built in strengths in the block that a honda does not have. The sleeves are actually a lot thicker than what i had initially thought or looked like. Can't wait.

The factory rods don't look forged they look like normal cast rods but beefy. Am I wrong?

**Luke@BeyondRedline** · 03-05-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ImAuthenticFTW

so still going with the 450whp limit on stock internals?? or do you think they could handle more?? what about with stronger pistons
(i know this is all guessing at this point)

I would say 400whp capable, judging by what we have seen with other engines like it. I know the SRT's have the same style rod, and they have made plenty of power on that.

**Luke@BeyondRedline** · 03-05-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueRB240

The factory rods don't look forged they look like normal cast rods but beefy. Am I wrong?

Powdered metal actually. That's why they look so beefy compared to the EVO X rod. They have to be, to withstand the hp that a forged rod half it size can withstand. ( well maybe not half, but you get the idea) I bet it was cheaper to put the PM rod in vs a forged rod though.

**Luke@BeyondRedline** · 03-05-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 96gsx

Everyone's wonderd if the Evo manifold will bolt up to the head. Any word on that?

Sorry if this has been answered already.

No either exhaust or intake manifold will not bolt onto this head.

Shin · 03-05-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke@BeyondRedline

Sorry if this has been answered already.

No either exhaust or intake manifold will not bolt onto this head.

Anyone else just died a little on the inside??

**Tim@BeyondRedline** · 03-06-2009, 04:00 AM

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Anyone else just died a little on the inside??

Cheer up man....Our company as well as many other quality vendors will have so many options for you guys....the last thing you will think about is how EVO stuff won't fit.

This is seriously going to be one of the best platforms in the last 20 years to play with. I know just from our own internal discussion that we will be offering everything you could possibly want/need to build the car of your dreams.

Just wait and see how awesome this is going to be....

**FlesHBoX** · 03-06-2009, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Shin

Anyone else just died a little on the inside??

Nope, I would have been surprised if they were swappable like that to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Tim@BeyondRedline

Cheer up man....Our company as well as many other quality vendors will have so many options for you guys....the last thing you will think about is how EVO stuff won't fit.

This is seriously going to be one of the best platforms in the last 20 years to play with. I know just from our own internal discussion that we will be offering everything you could possibly want/need to build the car of your dreams.

Just wait and see how awesome this is going to be....

This is awesome news!!! I so badly want this car to succeed.

Now we just need to start hearing stuff like this for the 3.8 and I will be ecstatic!!!

**Tim@BeyondRedline** · 03-06-2009, 06:17 AM

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Now we just need to start hearing stuff like this for the 3.8 and I will be ecstatic!!!

If the demand is there....the products won't be far behind.

**FlesHBoX** · 03-06-2009, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim@BeyondRedline

If the demand is there....the products won't be far behind.

Well, I can guarantee that 90% of the gencoupes that have been sold are 3.8s git to work!!!

usagi · 03-06-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim@BeyondRedline

If the demand is there....the products won't be far behind.

I'm buying a 3.8 and want parts. Is that enough demand?

Galbi · 03-06-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim@BeyondRedline

Cheer up man....Our company as well as many other quality vendors will have so many options for you guys....the last thing you will think about is how EVO stuff won't fit.

This is seriously going to be one of the best platforms in the last 20 years to play with. I know just from our own internal discussion that we will be offering everything you could possibly want/need to build the car of your dreams.

Just wait and see how awesome this is going to be....

FTMFW!!

Shin · 03-06-2009, 09:41 AM

All sounds good...just need to sell my SRT4 now so I don't have 2 money pits!

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