Mcmonopoly

CP-e made their box from welded Stainless, so that would do fine, I think I saw a Lovefab post with a temporary ->beer can<- heat shield that seemed to work by what they said, and CF would be the best, but the most expansive.

I'm in the process of buying an intake, and looking at having a heat shield/funnel that would mate with the OEM ram air piece. I'm not looking in making it a full box, just to have the cone filter shielded enough form the heat produced by the nearby engine.

I didn't have enough time alone with the car to take the OEM air box out so I could make a 3D model for comparison/research, but i'm pretty sure from here until next summer I'll have something drawn up that could be fabricated for next to nothing.

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acadian

I like your attitude! Unfortunately I can't wait until next summer to copy your idea. My plan right now is to get the Superdrift 3D intake pipe for Christmas to go along with my AEM conical filter. Not too long after installing that, I'll probably get to work on fabbing up my own shield, box or funnel.

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Mirabeau Blue 2010 Genesis Coupe 2.0T 6-Speed
Mods: Superdrift 3D Intake Kit w/ AEM Conical Air Filter,
Intake Silencer Delete, Wastegate Actuator Arm Adjustment

mmrp81

Just to clear up, you gain no performance whatsoever from just performing removing the silencer delete. It is nothing more than an acoustic dampener (like a muffler). The same with the intake cap. Removing it alters the vaccuum seal, creating a different sound.

Also, installing an intake (pipe and filter), replaces the silencer all together.

Cone Filter + Stock Tube + Silencer Delete = the sound your trying to achieve.

Con Filter + INtake Tube = Pretty much the same sound, with very little gain in power.

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200TurboGT

hey njgx...did you just walk into the parts store and walked out in 15 mins with a new filter? i wanna get it asap, so i really wanna know lol. and is it ok in the winter with all that cold air?

and also is the only upgrade to ur car the filter? just trying to get an idea if mine would sound great, my engine is brand new stock!

thanks!

NJGX03X87

yup i installed it right there in the autozone parking lot. all u need is a phillips screw driver. if u dont have 1 ask the guys inside and they should let u barrow 1.


Step 1: Walk into AutoZone and buy $20 cone filter

this is what it looks like:
Spectre High flow Cone filter


Step 2: Pop the hood, un-clip the top cover on the air box and completely remove it.

Step 3: Remove boring stock flat filter.

Step 4: loosen the clip that tightens the tip on the intake

Step 5: put the new airfilter in the open intake. and push the tip down into the botom of the airbox by the ram air hole.

Step 6: tighten the screw on the round clip

Step 7: close ur hood and REV THE ENGINE!


i would do the silencer delete first if u havent already done that...

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200TurboGT

but doesent the filter have to be the same size as the one on the gen? sorry im new to mods..first car actually!

satheian

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Step 6.5: START ENGINE!

I say this because otherwise someone will do the filter swap while the engine is running..

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VicGenCoupe

Directed at 200turbogt- putting a cone filter on stock intake are any short ram intake will draw in warmer air than what's outside. The stock box pulls outside air, the SRI pulls engine bay air.

adam5001

So i'm sure this is a completely noob question but i'll shoot anyway.

I already did the intake silencer delete and i've been reading about putting in the cone filter but being mechanically challenged i'm a little confused..

Do i literally take out the entire black box that the normal filter is in? or do i just like take the drop in filter out and then plug the hole (the one on the top that clips down) or do i leave it open? if anybody has a picture with the cone filter in that would help??

Also a couple off ppl have mentioned its bad for the headers or something? Is it that big of a deal or no?

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-Blox 490-LE neo shift knob
-Silencer delete
-High air flow conical filter

VicGenCoupe

1-pop the top off the airbox
2-remove stock filter
3-unclamp and remove top of airbox from the intake boot
4-insert a cone filter into intake boot and clamp down(must have a 3" opening on the neck of filter)
Lastly-close hood and enjoy!
Make sure you know weather your filter is the type that requires oil or not. They both work just don't run a oiled filter without oiling it first.

200TurboGT

thanks for all the help! 2mrrow im gonna go to the parts shop and ask for a 3' neck filter, and if it is oiled or not?

CheekyChung

k&n is a great company for oiled filters. AEM is a dry filter, so no oil is needed before using.

I'm planning on going with AEM just because it's one small step less. Unless the price turns my choices...

There's still the question of if it's beneficial besides sound. Yes, the volume of air and less restriction should yield gains, but there are those that argue that because it is an open filter, the heat from the engine will make that gain negligible, if not worsening.


I do have a question though, I read on several subbie forums (yes, subbie, but a car is a car) and a couple posts on here that adding an open filter/intake will cause the engine to run more lean because of the mass amount of air now entering, but wouldn't this be controlled by the ecu somehow?

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VicGenCoupe

Well I don't have an AFR guage so I can't say for sure but...
I wash my car 2 times a week wiping my exhaust tips off each time. By the time I wash my car the tips are black again, leaving me to believe the car is still running pig rich! It might lean it out a little but not enough to hurt anything or gain huge incredible power gains. If anybody has an AFR and knows for sure, feel free to chime in.

NJGX03X87

not exactly. i left the bottom portion of the stock air box. the filter its literally siting right on the ram air opening. i can feel more power (especially in the high RPMs. 3rd gear pulls pretty nice

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acadian

Just replacing the stock airbox with a conical filter is going to suck in warmer air, but if you position the filter as close as possible to that opening down there where the cold air is coming in from the stock "ram air" setup, the air will be cooler. You are definitely not going to lose power by doing this over the stock airbox. Although the air is going to be warmer, you will be sucking in a lot more air. Considering that the turbo by nature makes the air hot anyway, air temperatures are not as important on a turbocharged car.

Trust me, replace the stock airbox. Even without a heat shield of any kind, you should gain a few HP. More importantly, you will gain a much better sound.

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Mods: Superdrift 3D Intake Kit w/ AEM Conical Air Filter,
Intake Silencer Delete, Wastegate Actuator Arm Adjustment

acadian

This is correct. I have to say though that most of the intake tubes out there right now are made to sit in that bottom OEM elbow that the intake silencer currently sits in, or the soup can that some people have put in. The Superdrift 3D intake pipe is the only one that I know of that is a single pipe with an elbow that replaces ALL stock pipe straight to the turbo. That's why I will be getting that intake pipe. Plus, it's the cheapest because it doesn't come with a filter, for those of us who bought a stand alone conical filter already.

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Mods: Superdrift 3D Intake Kit w/ AEM Conical Air Filter,
Intake Silencer Delete, Wastegate Actuator Arm Adjustment

VicGenCoupe

I know, I was just trying to tell 200turboGT that the cold air does not hurt anything. while the cone filter does grab some cold air its not the same amount as the stock airbox would grab(being as the stock box is air tight). As well as the fact that the ECU compensates for temperature. I would have elaborated more on the subject but when I post after 4pm, its on my I-phone and its a real pain to type stuff out let alone edit stuff. on another note, I would think that having a cone filter(without a heat shield) instead of the stock filter or other drop-in would even help warm up the engine and turbo, faster in colder temps due to the warm engine air. then again maybe not, its been around -2 to 3 degrees Celsius after work here and it takes about 4 kms to fully warm up. I do notice one thing tho, the colder it gets outside the more my car wants to get up and go.

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200TurboGT

so i went to the auto shop today and i asked the guy for a 3' neck high flow filter..and he explained to me that if we just put a filter when you tighten the filter to the hose the plastic is going to buckle.

first off, is he right? i know some of you guys just have the filter..so how did yours work?

and also im debating just getting an intake..he said hede make me a custom one for 200 with an aem filter...will it sound even better?

NJGX03X87

Ok, go back in that shop and tell him NJGX03X87 said hes a dumba$$ and hes just trying to scam u out of $200.

do what i said in my instructions and u will be fine. ur not gunna gain anything extra from an intake over a High flow filter & Silencer delete.

... atleast nothing noticeable

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200TurboGT

Ok so im just gonna go get the filter myself and install it myself, hopefully everything goes right! and also this thread is about silencer delete...but noone actually told me how to do it!