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Old 02-19-2012, 03:26 PM   #781
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any recommendations on a clutch that would go well with this kit? I've only found BTRCC.

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Where did you see 13.7 AFR on that video? or DYNO? The AFRs are 11:0 in boost, very conservative...
doesnt the AFR on the dyno say 13.7 peak with 12 average? It was small, and lime green...very possibly misread it on an iphone lol
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doesnt the AFR on the dyno say 13.7 peak with 12 average? It was small, and lime green...very possibly misread it on an iphone lol
You're right. It says Min 11.5, Max 15.7, and Avg 12.4.
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okay, i re-read the dyno since i'm not on a phone 13.7 peak 12.4 average and 11.8 minimum. looks like the lean is out of boost and it stays pretty steady in boost, but still not seeing 11:1 says min is 11.8. It'd be easier to see what it is in boost if it was on its own graph.
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You're right. It says Min 11.5, Max 15.7, and Avg 12.4.
is it 15? I thought it was 15 at first but then said nah it's 13 it's so damned hard to read in that color lol. do i really have to pull my browser over to my 30"? i'm tryin to play some League of Legends right now...wtf....
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is it 15? I thought it was 15 at first but then said nah it's 13 it's so damned hard to read in that color lol. do i really have to pull my browser over to my 30"? i'm tryin to play some League of Legends right now...wtf....
Lol idk man, the lime green color makes it hard to make it out. I can barley read it on my 22" widescreen.
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Competition Clutch, SPEC & Clutchmasters all make them. Let me know which brand you like the best and I'll get you the best price. We can get all of the above listed clutches we just don't have them listed on our site yet. We will expand our site offerings once the kit goes live.

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Are you looking at SFRs DYNO sheet? I wasn't there and can only go by what I was told. The AEM wideband in the car reads 11:0. The tail pipe sniffers can be off. The customer grabbed a set of EBAY mufflers quickly to build his exhaust. They broke already at the welds, so there was probably some fresh air contamination on the tail pipe sniffer. The AEM is hooked directly into the pipe about a foot after the turbo. So much more accurate

You gotta give us more credit than that! We've been turboing cars for 10+ years. If it was 13.7 full boost we wouldn't be boosting the car! LOL

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is it 15? I thought it was 15 at first but then said nah it's 13 it's so damned hard to read in that color lol. do i really have to pull my browser over to my 30"? i'm tryin to play some League of Legends right now...wtf....
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Lol idk man, the lime green color makes it hard to make it out. I can barley read it on my 22" widescreen.
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okay, i re-read the dyno since i'm not on a phone 13.7 peak 12.4 average and 11.8 minimum. looks like the lean is out of boost and it stays pretty steady in boost, but still not seeing 11:1 says min is 11.8. It'd be easier to see what it is in boost if it was on its own graph.
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I am interested in seeing how the exhaust piping hooks up under the car. If there's pictures already posted I didn't see them, so sorry. Curious as to how it connects to the stock headers and cat back.
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Competition Clutch, SPEC & Clutchmasters all make them. Let me know which brand you like the best and I'll get you the best price. We can get all of the above listed clutches we just don't have them listed on our site yet. We will expand our site offerings once the kit goes live.

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Are you looking at SFRs DYNO sheet? I wasn't there and can only go by what I was told. The AEM wideband in the car reads 11:0. The tail pipe sniffers can be off. The customer grabbed a set of EBAY mufflers quickly to build his exhaust. They broke already at the welds, so there was probably some fresh air contamination on the tail pipe sniffer. The AEM is hooked directly into the pipe about a foot after the turbo. So much more accurate

You gotta give us more credit than that! We've been turboing cars for 10+ years. If it was 13.7 full boost we wouldn't be boosting the car! LOL
I was looking at the AFR that was posted in this thread a page or two after the original dyno was released. It said "AFRs are up!" or something like that. the AFR is in lime green at the bottom of the dyno sheet. I wasn't knocking your know how, but you said something like "just need to get the tune done now!" or something and I was saying "well, don't do any more pulls before the tuner gets there and blow it up before you're done!" based off what I saw on the AFR. I just read the numbers though, since the graph doesn't have a unit measure on it. looking at the curve it looks stable and low
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I heard the 2.0T guys complain about the SPEC clutch ALOT. All i know is "it's junk in this car". I dunno what that means, if it's an issue with the 2.0 tranny, or if it's even true, but they all seem to prefer Competition out of the three big 3 "spec, comp, and clutchmasters". BTRcc on has the spec clutches for the 3.8 iirc, idk if comp clutches even has 3.8 gear, but the comp clutch and flywheel for the 2.0 is actually a lot cheaper again iirc. So if they have it, and it works, better...I'd go for comp, stage 3 and a lightweight flywheel.

A lot of the issues with the BK tranny are due to the stock dual mass clutch and dual mass flywheel. There have a been quite a few failures, mine among them. Had my bushings, linkage, shifter, and trans replaced, and it's still broken with the '11 trans because, guess what, they recycled the clutch. Hasn't slipped much at all yet, but there's an issue with the spring loading/unloading in the hubs. I get nasty bucking on my stick from time to time. Just haven't taken it back to get it fixed AGAIN....since I'm trying to lemon my car (before I have to get new tires :P)
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I am interested in seeing how the exhaust piping hooks up under the car. If there's pictures already posted I didn't see them, so sorry. Curious as to how it connects to the stock headers and cat back.
it's like 3 pages back. all the pictures. stop being lazy.

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I was looking at the AFR that was posted in this thread a page or two after the original dyno was released. It said "AFRs are up!" or something like that. the AFR is in lime green at the bottom of the dyno sheet. I wasn't knocking your know how, but you said something like "just need to get the tune done now!" or something and I was saying "well, don't do any more pulls before the tuner gets there and blow it up before you're done!" based off what I saw on the AFR. I just read the numbers though, since the graph doesn't have a unit measure on it. looking at the curve it looks stable and low

ClutchMasters FX300 (Stage 3) is $598.50. That would be my recommendation if you don't like SPEC. Looks like the Comp Clutch kit isn't out yet.

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I heard the 2.0T guys complain about the SPEC clutch ALOT. All i know is "it's junk in this car". I dunno what that means, if it's an issue with the 2.0 tranny, or if it's even true, but they all seem to prefer Competition out of the three big 3 "spec, comp, and clutchmasters". BTRcc on has the spec clutches for the 3.8 iirc, idk if comp clutches even has 3.8 gear, but the comp clutch and flywheel for the 2.0 is actually a lot cheaper again iirc. So if they have it, and it works, better...I'd go for comp, stage 3 and a lightweight flywheel.

A lot of the issues with the BK tranny are due to the stock dual mass clutch and dual mass flywheel. There have a been quite a few failures, mine among them. Had my bushings, linkage, shifter, and trans replaced, and it's still broken with the '11 trans because, guess what, they recycled the clutch. Hasn't slipped much at all yet, but there's an issue with the spring loading/unloading in the hubs. I get nasty bucking on my stick from time to time. Just haven't taken it back to get it fixed AGAIN....since I'm trying to lemon my car (before I have to get new tires :P)
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Got it, so we're comparing used cars to new cars now too. Gotcha. Okay, we'll I guess I'll pull out my fox body mustang with a built, supercharged LS1 motor and try to fit it's big dragging dick in the trunk....Or how about my 10 year old 2jze that costs the same as a brand new track BK, hell, I'm sure I can scrounge up a terminator svt cobra for less than a 2.0 rspec! Since you like minimal mod zany comparisons, hows that? supercharged, 8 psi 390 horse 4.4 60 and mid 12 quarter stock! I'm sure that'd be a lot cheaper to upgrade and "walk" a boosted 3.8 too!

BTW over the last 5 years or so the cost of used cars has gone up by around 30% due to market conditions, you have no warranty, higher APR financing, and sub part technology even just going used from a few years back. So the answer is, smart people buy new. Geniuses pay cash.
I'm new here, and have lurking this thread, but I had to disagree with this statement.

I come from a C5 Corvette background and had a blown C5 with a STOCK longblock that put out 600 to the wheels. It had meth though, which makes it somewhat unfair for comparison (along with two more cylinders).

Having sunk a boat load of money in my car to then lose my butt when I sold it, the smartest thing is to buy one already modded, if you plan to mod it. If you want a stocker, then new is good. The part that I disagree with is that Geniuses pay cash.

I think that with 0% or really low apr's it's Stupid nowadays to invest your cash in a depreciating asset. Pay your monthly payment and use your money for things that matter (such as house payments, food, other investments, emergency's that always come up etc.). That is unless you won the lottery or have disposeable income, then Please disregard this.

When TK and their present tuner talk about the limits of the stock block and internals, they're just rubbing the crystal ball. They don't know for sure, because every motor is different.

Heck, the original tuner got more than 400 to the wheels and it didn't explode. I think that it's the tuner that is talking about their safety limits and not the limits of the motor. I tuned mine by myself, so I know a bit about tuning (at least tuning LSx motors).

I do see it from their point of view in that for liability sake, they keep it low, but for the dollar/performance ratio, the power limits that they're talking of wouldn't seem worth it to me. Of course, we don't know the price of the kit yet or the power range either. It's all just speculation now. Just my .02 and you get what you pay for!

Most of the longevity of any motor is in the tune (proper fueling never hurts either, but mostly in the tune). If you keep detonation to a minimum, the motr will do fine.

Also, this is just my thoughts in closing, but I don't have a Gen Coupe (just like them and found this forum, but might buy one in the future for my wife), but to spend $5K-$7K for 380-400 rwhp wouldn't be worth it to me. Once again, just my opinion. Peace and Best of Luck to TurboKits!
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I'm new here, and have lurking this thread, but I had to disagree with this statement.

I come from a C5 Corvette background and had a blown C5 with a STOCK longblock that put out 600 to the wheels. It had meth though, which makes it somewhat unfair for comparison (along with two more cylinders).

Having sunk a boat load of money in my car to then lose my butt when I sold it, the smartest thing is to buy one already modded, if you plan to mod it. If you want a stocker, then new is good. The part that I disagree with is that Geniuses pay cash.

I think that with 0% or really low apr's it's Stupid nowadays to invest your cash in a depreciating asset. Pay your monthly payment and use your money for things that matter (such as house payments, food, other investments, emergency's that always come up etc.). That is unless you won the lottery or have disposeable income, then Please disregard this.

When TK and their present tuner talk about the limits of the stock block and internals, they're just rubbing the crystal ball. They don't know for sure, because every motor is different.

Heck, the original tuner got more than 400 to the wheels and it didn't explode. I think that it's the tuner that is talking about their safety limits and not the limits of the motor. I tuned mine by myself, so I know a bit about tuning (at least tuning LSx motors).

I do see it from their point of view in that for liability sake, they keep it low, but for the dollar/performance ratio, the power limits that they're talking of wouldn't seem worth it to me. Of course, we don't know the price of the kit yet or the power range either. It's all just speculation now. Just my .02 and you get what you pay for!

Most of the longevity of any motor is in the tune (proper fueling never hurts either, but mostly in the tune). If you keep detonation to a minimum, the motr will do fine.

Also, this is just my thoughts in closing, but I don't have a Gen Coupe (just like them and found this forum, but might buy one in the future for my wife), but to spend $5K-$7K for 380-400 rwhp wouldn't be worth it to me. Once again, just my opinion. Peace and Best of Luck to TurboKits!

thanks for the post and few good points ....
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I'm new here, and have lurking this thread, but I had to disagree with this statement.

Having sunk a boat load of money in my car to then lose my butt when I sold it, the smartest thing is to buy one already modded, if you plan to mod it. If you want a stocker, then new is good. The part that I disagree with is that Geniuses pay cash.

I think that with 0% or really low apr's it's Stupid nowadays to invest your cash in a depreciating asset. Pay your monthly payment and use your money for things that matter (such as house payments, food, other investments, emergency's that always come up etc.). That is unless you won the lottery or have disposeable income, then Please disregard this.

Peace and Best of Luck to TurboKits!
geniuses pay cash for everything they can, you're not getting a whole lot of leverage out of a car payment. so you get .9, 1.9, 2.9 financing on say, for sake of argument, 25000 financed at 2.9 so 450 a month you're paying something like 3-4k in interest over a 60 month loan. If you plan to mod your car, essentially you're getting that much in mods for the same cost as financing a stock car. Used cars have gone up in resale value by 30% since the recession. If you can maintain positive equity in your vehicle why not do it? Why would you "own" something that you have to pay to sell?


You can get 10k for closing costs on a foreclosed home right now through fidelity you don't have to pay back if you stay for 5 years. Mortgage rates on homes are like 4.25, 4.5, 5%. That's where you get your leverage. You finance a home with a minimal downpayment. Even if you make the minimum downpayment which around me is like 3.5% you can't end up underwater right now because the market is so depressed that it's really tough to owe more on your house than it is worth. People don't typically sell houses the same way they sell cars so why save up for a big dp on a house that you're going to stay in for several years, and pay interest on a car that you're probably going to sell much sooner.

Good points, but it's all rather subjective to priorities. growing family vs single, disposable income, dependents, etc etc. I know plenty of people with tiny houses and built mustangs and monte carlos sitting out front. Their cars are probably worth as much as their houses versus my parents who retired as millionaires, own 3 houses, and drive a 96 chevy truck with 300k miles, a 96 chrysler, and an 04 chevy truck. (would rather see me drive a hyundai than a ford ) just a different set of priorities. But yes, the point of leveraging is well received. sorry about your vette.
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