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Tachsman19forme · 02-08-2010, 09:59 PM

It is hard to pay $8000 for a SC Kit that will void your powertrain warranty and then possible smoke your transmission. I am glad to see that others may be willing to go ahead and take the plunge! Let the experiment begin! Only time will tell how the ZF holds up. It would be great if those with the ZF keep us posted here of any negative activity. Thanks Mchart!

Mchart · 02-08-2010, 10:01 PM

If you buy a SC kit that brings the car to 360WHP and you don't expect any issues;

Frankly, you are an idiot.

think-about-it · 02-08-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-GEN

You sir are correct. Beemerdudes dyno with both the mods you mention equal 34 wtq so its equal to about 305 crank torque. I'm so ****ing piss that this tranny can't even handle bolt ons. That would mean that the 2.0t guys 5 speed auto probably sucks even more.

are you telling me that all i can get is an intake and exhaust or else, my transmission will fail...

XS Speed · 02-08-2010, 10:21 PM

I wouldn't put too much faith in those tranny numbers...........

think-about-it · 02-08-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lsutiger694

WOAH WOAH WOAH.... slow down there guy...As stated on HMA SERVICE we have the ZF 6HP19 which has very different numbers that the 26...do a little reading and the picture begins to :-(. Now, hopefully some can go under their care and check the transmission it self for a model number or 10 character number on the transmission. With that info we can get detailed specs on the AT

link please...

Tachsman19forme · 02-08-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mchart

If you buy a SC kit that brings the car to 360WHP and you don't expect any issues;

Frankly, you are an idiot.

Mchart, I do not understand the blind hostility in your response unless you are upset by the facts being openly discussed here. I have been expressing concerns which are ligitimate and am looking for truthful answers. We have plenty of time to get the facts since this SC kit won't be ready for months. I want my purchase to be based on accurate facts and not a sales pitch.

I am still debating whether or not the SC kit is worth the "risk" to me. Debating is good, and SFR should review this information and back it up with facts. After all, they want to sell SC kits. So overall, I think it is great that you have decided having 360 WHP is already worth the "risk", congratulations. I do expect "issues" will come up with this kit or any kit for that matter, but what will they be? Lets get as many of them out of the way before people buy!

Unfortunately, calling people names (idiot = ad hominem) is not justified here. Wanting to know the issues before buying a SC kit is not stupid. To make LOGICAL decisions requires adequate facts. Personal attacks fail to win arguments logically, and usually shows that person has an ignorance of the facts. Dan Aykroyd may have won debates with his classic line, "Jane, you ignorant slut!", however sir, you are no Dan Aykroyd.

Tachsman19forme · 02-08-2010, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XS Speed

I wouldn't put too much faith in those tranny numbers...........

The numbers are put out by the ZF manufacturer. Why don't you put faith in those numbers? Please give us any facts that back up your opinion.

Also, how many miles will a stressed ZF travel compared to a non-stressed one? Is that what you mean?

Tachsman19forme · 02-09-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by think-about-it

link please...

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...-1J3RNNAPJsFOw

ANALYSIS: New ZF 6-speed auto as efficient as manuals (sometimes): Automotive News & Comment

E92 335i automatic transmission tech info - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - E90Post.com

lsutiger694 · 02-09-2010, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by think-about-it

link please...

It is on HMA service site... Hyundai Service Website

Again, Someone should get the numbers off of the transmission itself... there have been different models of the 6hp19 as well. With he full 10 digit code we can hopefully find out details.

SUB-GEN · 02-09-2010, 03:46 AM

The real question is how much would it cost for a replacement ZF auto after you've spent the money on the F/I?

Mchart · 02-09-2010, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tachsman19forme

Mchart, I do not understand the blind hostility in your response unless you are upset by the facts being openly discussed here. I have been expressing concerns which are ligitimate and am looking for truthful answers. We have plenty of time to get the facts since this SC kit won't be ready for months. I want my purchase to be based on accurate facts and not a sales pitch.

I am still debating whether or not the SC kit is worth the "risk" to me. Debating is good, and SFR should review this information and back it up with facts. After all, they want to sell SC kits. So overall, I think it is great that you have decided having 360 WHP is already worth the "risk", congratulations. I do expect "issues" will come up with this kit or any kit for that matter, but what will they be? Lets get as many of them out of the way before people buy!

Unfortunately, calling people names (idiot = ad hominem) is not justified here. Wanting to know the issues before buying a SC kit is not stupid. To make LOGICAL decisions requires adequate facts. Personal attacks fail to win arguments logically, and usually shows that person has an ignorance of the facts. Dan Aykroyd may have won debates with his classic line, "Jane, you ignorant slut!", however sir, you are no Dan Aykroyd.

I wasn't calling you an idiot. I was generally calling everyone an idiot that seems to have this expectation that nothing should break w/ 370WHP. Thats a ton of power above stock.

orenj9 · 02-09-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mchart

I wasn't calling you an idiot. I was generally calling everyone an idiot that seems to have this expectation that nothing should break w/ 370WHP. Thats a ton of power above stock.

Depends on the car really. The guys with Mustang GTs don't seem to have to start replacing drive train parts until the 500 WHP range. But, those cars are built with some heavy duty, well tested parts.

RudyH · 02-09-2010, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Seoulfulracing

Definately No poweraxel

Like it says in the descriptions fully reflashed ECU included
This ECU will have the data that is dyno tuned.. it increase in redline as well.

Hmm so you are going to put a Korean ECU in a US car? How is this going to work? What will be done for updates?

- why does it matter how much someone is willing to spend on the kit, as it has cluttered this post for 2 pages at least?

If they didn't learn from the past 2 years, then they won't learn in the future, live within your means was the hopeful thing...

chico1313 · 02-09-2010, 09:24 AM

Its true .... Its all true

think-about-it · 02-09-2010, 11:09 AM

if the automatic transmission can only handle max 295 torque then what kinds of mod can we do before hitting 295...

CrookedH · 02-09-2010, 11:12 AM

Stock V6 only makes about 230 ft/lbs so you should be fine with all bolt ons and a tune, if the ZF will only handle 295. If it only handles 295 then anything above and beyond bolt ons probably has a good chance of messing up the ZF.

Merkles · 02-09-2010, 11:48 AM

If SFR tests a ZF with their kit and tests it hard with good results I will probably still get the kit. Not knowing what my tranny can handle is just killing me right now. Will someone please post their tranny s/n so we can get some more detailed specs.

freitec · 02-09-2010, 12:08 PM

Ok...I have to chime in

I turboed a 2 liter Mazda 3 auto and everybody said the tranny could hold it. They were right >> FOR A WHILE << !!. It was good for 6 months then NO WARNING tranny failed. That was at 6 psi. I know Mazda and Hyundai are 2 different animals, all I'm saying is someone could say the auto will hold but for how long compared to normally aspirated?? After several have had it for an extended period should you then CONSIDER it. It was cool having a 225 horse power sleeper but the headache and expense was not worth it for me in the long run. Let your warranty run out if you own it , then look into this !

some friendly advice, no judging or hating or whatever

tgpfarm · 02-09-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by freitec

Ok...I have to chime in

I turboed a 2 liter Mazda 3 auto and everybody said the tranny could hold it. They were right >> FOR A WHILE << !!. It was good for 6 months then NO WARNING tranny failed. That was at 6 psi. I know Mazda and Hyundai are 2 different animals, all I'm saying is someone could say the auto will hold but for how long compared to normally aspirated?? After several have had it for an extended period should you then CONSIDER it. It was cool having a 225 horse power sleeper but the headache and expense was not worth it for me in the long run. Let your warranty run out if you own it , then look into this !

some friendly advice, no judging or hating or whatever

Yeah that works unless everyone waits.

Something just kinda ticks me off about people complaining that a stock automatic tranny can't hold 2x its power or there abouts.
Personally I would never get a automatic in something I wanted to increase the hp in. Daily driver sure no problem getting a auto in that.
But I guess the genCoupe is some peoples DD. So I don't know, I guess the old saying still stands.

Have to pay to play.

I mean even with the manual, no one knows what the clutch can hold. I sure as hell hope clutches don't start flying apart though bell housings lol. A clutch and fly wheel right now are what? like $2700.

CrookedH · 02-09-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tgpfarm

Yeah that works unless everyone waits.

Something just kinda ticks me off about people complaining that a stock automatic tranny can't hold 2x its power or there abouts.
Personally I would never get a automatic in something I wanted to increase the hp in. Daily driver sure no problem getting a auto in that.
But I guess the genCoupe is some peoples DD. So I don't know, I guess the old saying still stands.

Have to pay to play.

I mean even with the manual, no one knows what the clutch can hold. I sure as hell hope clutches don't start flying apart though bell housings lol. A clutch and fly wheel right now are what? like $2700.

Lovefab is pushing over 320ft/lbs through the stock clutch on the 2.0T currently. MSUgeomann was running the stock clutch with 340ft/lbs as well, now Tony20TGen is doing the same.

I would assume the V6 one is just as strong, if not more so.

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