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Old 10-15-2010, 09:30 PM   #1
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i have problem with transmission problem...
i just ordered the tic bushings and twm short shifter.
i also want to change my transmission oil change and people are saying that redline shock proof oil is good for my mission.
so i went to the redline website and there are different types of transmission oil...
there are heavy, lightweight, and superlight...
if anyone knows about this please let me know and any recommandation on other brand or type of oil would be very helpful.

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Get the lightweight. The heavy is too thick for normal use, especially if the ambient temperatures are cold.
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Get the lightweight. The heavy is too thick for normal use, especially if the ambient temperatures are cold.
+1 on the lightweight shock proof, but probably overkill if you don't track your vehicle or abuse it regularly. I believe Redline 75w85 is what is now being recommended for DD use.
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what about for us who live in the heat. like say, south florida?? haha what oil should i use?
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I posted this previously.

If you just want to go with a better aftermarket synthetic, get the Redline MT-85 or MT-90 (whichever is most available to you)

If you are having any grind issue, try the Redline Shockproof Lightweight. This should be usable in both warm and cold environments year round. Just bear in mind that in colder areas, you may find that for the winter if you still drive your car and not a beater you will need to change it back to the MT-85 due to liquid viscosity thickness in the shockproof making it harder to shift until the fluid warms up (not warming engine, but actually driving so that the gears warm the tranny fluid).

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thanks wildbill
since im having grinding issue, im going to try shockproof lightweight.

and one more thing how much transmission fluid should i get?
on the redline website, they offer quart and gallon i dont know how much fluid i need for my tranny.

also when i do the fluid change, is there anything else that i need?
like when you do the oil change to your car, you need to change the oil filter too...
does that go same for the transmission?

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Check your manual but I think it takes a little less then three quarts.
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thanks wildbill

also when i do the fluid change, is there anything else that i need?
like when you do the oil change to your car, you need to change the oil filter too...
does that go same for the transmission?

+1

went to some sites and some suggest you take off the pan and clean it??? haha

but i think the car they were using was a auto tranny...
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I posted this previously.

If you just want to go with a better aftermarket synthetic, get the Redline MT-85 or MT-90 (whichever is most available to you)

If you are having any grind issue, try the Redline Shockproof Lightweight. This should be usable in both warm and cold environments year round. Just bear in mind that in colder areas, you may find that for the winter if you still drive your car and not a beater you will need to change it back to the MT-85 due to liquid viscosity thickness in the shockproof making it harder to shift until the fluid warms up (not warming engine, but actually driving so that the gears warm the tranny fluid).

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sorry if this sounds noobish but can we buy this at a parts store or will i have to go on the internet also what about royal purple ? say if i had to go to a parts store ?

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sorry if this sounds noobish but can we buy this at a parts store or wioll i have to go on the internet also what about royal purple ? say if i had to go to a parts store ?
Don't get Royal Purple. It breaks down too quickly. Get some Redline MT-90. You won't be disappointed. I seriously doubt you will find it at any auto parts store so you will most likely have to order it on-line. MAPerformance has it pretty cheap. Search results*-*Modern Automotive Performance
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Just checked the manual and it says we need about 2.11 quarts for the manual transmission for the 2.0 and about 2.83 for the 3.8 i have the 2.0 ( yes i know this is a 3.8 section) but this is the only place i found that directly had anything to do with transmission oil and changing it. So since 2.0 requires about 2.11 quarts can i get alway with just 2 quarts or should i just buy 3?
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Does anyone know how amsoil compares to redline? that would be easier for me to get from the store...
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OK...lets tackle and answer some of these questions

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thanks wildbill
since im having grinding issue, im going to try shockproof lightweight.

and one more thing how much transmission fluid should i get?
on the redline website, they offer quart and gallon i dont know how much fluid i need for my tranny.

also when i do the fluid change, is there anything else that i need?
like when you do the oil change to your car, you need to change the oil filter too...
does that go same for the transmission?
Per the owners manual and confirmed with HMAService documentation, the Manual tranny regardless of engine size holds between 2 and 2.5 quarts. Since you are planning to do the tranny, I would recommend doing the rear axle as well which requires a little under 1.5 quarts. I just find better success when the oil in these two components are changed at the same time. So, that would mean buying 4 quarts should get you taken care of with just a little bit left over. So, your choice whether you want to buy 4 quarts or a gallon jug. Since the price is practically identical, I usually go with separate quart sized bottles myself as it makes it easier during the install phase.

As for anything additionally like a filter or anything, nope. Just drain and fill. The only 2 things to keep in mind is that: 1 - You completely refill the tranny (otherwise you will still get grinding or "locked out" gears) and 2 - You make sure you have the correct size socket wrench. I was surprised at how big of a size the bolt was for filling it back up. Unfortunately I can't recall the exact metric size off the top of my head at the moment, sorry.

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Check your manual but I think it takes a little less then three quarts.
See above. You are right for the most part.

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+1

went to some sites and some suggest you take off the pan and clean it??? haha

but i think the car they were using was a auto tranny...
Typically this is done with Autos or manuals with signs of problems. The reason for this is because the Autos go longer without being changed so things gunk up more and manuals with problems because they are having problems lol .

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sorry if this sounds noobish but can we buy this at a parts store or will i have to go on the internet also what about royal purple ? say if i had to go to a parts store ?
Depends on what brand and product you are looking for. Most national chains do carry a nice assortment. You may just need to pull the part number from the lubricant companies website and call around. That being said, G&M Performance is a dealer for both Royal Purple and Red Line Oil of which I recommend Red Line as it is the only stuff for any lubricant I currently have in my car and I couldn't be happier (about to try some Motul Brake Fluid just because I got it free for testing purposes).

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Don't get Royal Purple. It breaks down too quickly. Get some Redline MT-90. You won't be disappointed. I seriously doubt you will find it at any auto parts store so you will most likely have to order it on-line. MAPerformance has it pretty cheap. Search results*-*Modern Automotive Performance
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Just checked the manual and it says we need about 2.11 quarts for the manual transmission for the 2.0 and about 2.83 for the 3.8 i have the 2.0 ( yes i know this is a 3.8 section) but this is the only place i found that directly had anything to do with transmission oil and changing it. So since 2.0 requires about 2.11 quarts can i get alway with just 2 quarts or should i just buy 3?
See above. You want to fill it completely!!! Otherwise you face some nasty shifting ahead and possibly some damage from that. It's much wiser to pay the extra couple of bucks to get more than enough in this situation.

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Does anyone know how amsoil compares to redline? that would be easier for me to get from the store...
I have used all of AMSoil (and was a dealer with them for a period of time) products at one time in my Gen Coupe. I have also run a complete Royal Purple setup and a complete Red Line Oil setup in my Gen Coupe as well. Out of these, I would rate them as follows:

1 - Best - Red Line Oil: Worth every penny and has fully met or, in most cases, exceeded my expectations to date. Glad we were able to pic them up as a dealer!

2 - Better - AMSoil: Good alternative and worked really well. Only problem I could find was that they tend to be a bit pricey and hard to come by, at least in my neck of the woods. Also, the tranny fluid smoothed out the shifts for only about 5K miles over 2 months before the grind slowly came back. Running the Red Line Oil Shockproof, I have had no problems as of yet unless I am lazy/careless and screw up the shift lol.

3 - Good - Royal Purple: Again, for the most part a good alternative but found 2 major problems. 1 - The tranny fluid caused the grinding and cold start locking and hard shifting to get worse. Could never get it fixed between myself, my mechanic, and Royal Purple Tech Support. 2 - The engine oil caused my motor to start pinging noticeably when idling to the point of a rough idle at times. As soon as I re-changed the motor oil to Mobil 1 to get me by, the pinging and rough idling immediately stopped. So, not sure if it was the car or a bad batch of oil, but you only get one chance with me when it comes to fluids as they are the life line of the car.

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Thanks Bill for the many answers haha that actually helps a lot. I'll probably look into getting some Red Line from you guys soon
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Thanks Bill for the many answers haha that actually helps a lot. I'll probably look into getting some Red Line from you guys soon
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Just checked the manual and it says we need about 2.11 quarts for the manual transmission for the 2.0 and about 2.83 for the 3.8 i have the 2.0 ( yes i know this is a 3.8 section) but this is the only place i found that directly had anything to do with transmission oil and changing it. So since 2.0 requires about 2.11 quarts can i get alway with just 2 quarts or should i just buy 3?
By all means get 3 quarts. Don't short change your transmission. You will regret it. Plus it's only another $10 for one more quart. I would also suggest buying some sort of fluid pump that will push the fluid from the bottle into the transmission. It will make your fluid change soooo much quicker.
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By all means get 3 quarts. Don't short change your transmission. You will regret it. Plus it's only another $10 for one more quart. I would also suggest buying some sort of fluid pump that will push the fluid from the bottle into the transmission. It will make your fluid change soooo much quicker.
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lol, yeah i got just went and bought 3 quarts
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yeah i went the MT-85 route. Glad I did after 500 mi I saw a rather large difference in the trans. "very slight" grind now but i'm still at 16k mi and ppl have said that that will go away in a bit...

still... i'm a pilot/mechanic and I wouldn't trust my life in a plane if it felt like this so I'm not quite letting this go with the dealer yet...
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