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**Tim@BeyondRedline** · 04-06-2009, 05:11 AM

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306 out of the 2.0T is a great figure but im still looking for more Im sure there is still more to be had safely.

There is much more to be had! We actually did up the boost a bit more and hit 331WHP, but the results got skewed a bit. We didn't have much time to diagnose what was going on, but our first thought is that we have now reached the limit of the factory catback exhaust system.

Enjoy!

Golfa · 04-06-2009, 05:30 AM

so wait, I haven't noticed mention of fuel pump.....are you still using stock one?

**Tim@BeyondRedline** · 04-06-2009, 05:34 AM

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so wait, I haven't noticed mention of fuel pump.....are you still using stock one?

Everything in the fuel system is completely stock with the exception of the injectors which were replaced with 600cc units.

rbpwrd · 04-06-2009, 05:52 AM

very nice! how much of a gain do you figure with the new exhaust system put on?

NeverNZ · 04-06-2009, 05:54 AM

so i see you did make it to 20psi...

NeverNZ · 04-06-2009, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rbpwrd

very nice! how much of a gain do you figure with the new exhaust system put on?

that should easily make 20+ hp on the 20psi dyno

rbpwrd · 04-06-2009, 05:55 AM

so realistically, after a good tune, with the new exhaust, this should be good for 360+ whp!?!?!?!

NeverNZ · 04-06-2009, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cj02kg

damn you are both fast lol, so any estimation what 0-60 this translates to? Or is this too hard to tell?

0-60 is a terrible gauge of performance, it is far to dependant on gearing. It is much better to use something like the 1/4 mile, the longer distance removes(or atleast lessens) the gear spacing penalties.

You see many exotics cresting 60 in less than 4 seconds because they do it in first gear. This is the same reason why a 600hp supra will reach 60 slower than a 500hp lamborghini or ferrari

NeverNZ · 04-06-2009, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rbpwrd

so realistically, after a good tune, with the new exhaust, this should be good for 360+ whp!?!?!?!

I hope so, thats is a 500hp+ capable turbo. We'll have to wait until Beyond Redline gets the catback on. The setup will probably make far more when the rev limiter is raised. I'd imagine that the stock internals can't handle much more power than that though.

**Tim@BeyondRedline** · 04-06-2009, 06:03 AM

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so realistically, after a good tune, with the new exhaust, this should be good for 360+ whp!?!?!?!

Absolutely! Maybe more depending on how many roadblocks and limitations we run into as we continue to up the boost.

We can't wait to find out....

**Jay@SFR** · 04-06-2009, 06:27 AM

Good job..
Clutch will eventually slip, and Korean clutch manufacture already came out with twin plated clutch set that is capable of 650whp and 800pounds of torque. You might need that soon

Removing the rev limit can be only done by reflash.
I have solutions for both, and contact us if you have any questions!

bottlefed_k24 · 04-06-2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Seoulfulracing

Good job..
Clutch will eventually slip, and Korean clutch manufacture already came out with twin plated clutch set that is capable of 650whp and 800pounds of torque. You might need that soon

Removing the rev limit can be only done by reflash.
I have solutions for both, and contact us if you have any questions!

we keep hearing u mention reflash- the question is - how do we get our hands on them- who makes the software- will it be compatible using windows-
GDS? need more info--

KDMGUY · 04-06-2009, 07:46 AM

Sorry at this point .. we are only giving out the info to U.S vendors.. Since we are seeking for a vendor who would cooperate with us on that project.

AdR · 04-06-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfa

you need to settle down lol

300 whp is not that great (for now) and how can u even tell something sounds "rev happy" on a dyno? How do you even define that on a car like this. When I think "rev happy" I don't think of a 2.0L Turbo Hyundai :P

I never said sounds (as I didn't hear it), I said seems. By rev happy I mean using the upper part of the revs to achieve the best performance. If you look at the dyno graph, peak HP comes at peak rpm which is usually indicative of a need for a higher rev limiter (hence rev happy) as the engine is not losing hp by rpm increase.

BTW: The emoticon for the tongue is with a lower case P, just in case.

-Regards

Aiphanes · 04-06-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

for the record a 370Z is making anywhere between 250rwhp and 220lb-ft of rwtq to 290rwhp and 250rwtq. depending on the dyno model used

with intake/header/Hi-flow cat/cat-back and tune, they are easily making 330rwhp and 280rwtq if not more.

and the cars weight is 3,200lbs.

WOW I never new this.....330 RWHP????? Dang if nissan could put in the dual clutch into the 370Z...this thing would rock! its till an awesome car.....just think when nissan and hyundai put in direct injection into their engines next year.

McFly · 04-06-2009, 11:29 AM

Great work Beyond Redline! Very impressive, and very pleased!

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Originally Posted by dj-turbo

oh man just seeing this is exciting and its just the beginning, i have no idea what 2 get 3.8

2.0

3.8

2.0. i will just have wait and see. im kinda 2 the point that i want both lol. thanks for giving us 2 many options Hyundai lol. if there was a 3.8 r-spec i would be leaning

Well, it looks like the 3.8 will make just as much power for less money, for one. Next, with the amount of money that the end user will likely spend, I estimate that this will break the difference between a 2.0 and 3.8 (which is $3000). So, you'll spend more on the 2.0 to match the 3.8... so far that is. It's still not proven, until the limits of the stock turbo have been found. If the limits of the stock turbo can be reached for less than $3000, then the 2.0 will win the match up... if not, you have to decide if you want bolt-on power, or upgraded turbo power. If bolt-on power, then 3.8 will make more power stock, and go from there with bolt-ons. If you want upgraded turbo power, then it will be cheaper to upgrade the turbo on the 2.0, than put enough bolt-ons into the 3.8 to get there, likely.

It's a two-way race, basically. I'm STILL on the fence. I can't stand it!

The last thing to consider is do you want turbo spool sound or V6 rubble sound?

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Originally Posted by Galbi

Well the engine is square 86 x 86 so inherently it'll rev the 8krpm pretty quickly. I believe honda's B series are 86 x 86 no? Or was it the K series as well. I know the 4b11's are86 x 86

The only Honda square design has been the K20 engine. All B-series had a longer stroke than bore, all K24's (K22, as well as F22) have a longer stroke than bore, and the S2000 F20 motor has a shorter stroke than bore to allow it to rev to 9000 with lessor technology than the K-Series with CVVT (which allows it to go to greater piston velocities than the F20).

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Originally Posted by Zguy

Yes there are tuning systems.They already have stand alones that work for it. And that 310-320whp is on a Load bearing dyno as well not a dynojet. 306 out of the 2.0T is a great figure but im still looking for more

Im sure there is still more to be had safely.

I'm also waiting for more. It's impressive that 300whp barrier has been broken here in the US so soon, but I'd expect/wait for more with an upgraded turbo.

CMcCane · 04-06-2009, 12:10 PM

I'm really glad for you turbo owners making 300+ hp on your coupes! What would the cost of something like this be including installation (for those of us who don't have the tools/time to pull the motor apart)?

Also consider once the companies start with 3.8 forced induction or bolt ons we should be making some big numbers too! I know you guys saw that boosted 3.8 that was like 500+ hp in Korea already.