xrattiracer

The noises that a turbo makes is one of the reasons i am not even considering the V6. the sounds of the turbo is just one part of the experience of driving a turbo car, but its an important part. now then you really dont get to hear much from most stock turbos, even if you toss out all the airbox crap that usually muffles it. the tiny turbos like what comes stock on the gencoupe run such high rpm that most of the turbo whistle sound is in a frequency range too high for us to hear. all you end up hearing is massive amounts of air being sucked in. but the sound of a larger turbo at full song is just unbelievable.
As an example, here is my merkur with a holset turbo from a dodge diesel truck (with the silender ring removed) at about 19 psi: http://www.merkurboys.com/vids/stree...-7-16-04_2.avi Beware that I was racing a supercharged ford lightning so dont confuse his supercharger sound with the much higher pitched turbo if youre not that familiar with the sounds of both of them.
To me its a ricer thing if youre doing it more to "show off" to those around you than for your own enjoyment. Rice is all about the perception of power/speed/whatever rather than the actual thing.

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Kai

That rx7 video is sick! and the turbo sound is a turbo sound... If you got a turbo I'd expect you'd want to hear it... And it's definitely not ricey considering Ricers can't afford turbos

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Kai

ur video was rly choppy and I couldn't hear it?

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xrattiracer

oh its an older divx codec, may need to download it.

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Grey Ghost

We are comparing apples to oranges here... a tiburon with a TD04 and a SRT4 with a TD04 is not the same as the teeny weeny TD04 in the Coupe. Period.

SRT4 TD04s are one of the biggest TD04's and will make noise, especially when the turbo has its own internal BOV stock. and is a single ball bearing unit on the compressor side IIRC. But no one can really use it because its exhaust housing is mated in the exhaust manifold.

I drove a few GenCoupes in the last 2 weeks most were from the dealer, the other two, a friend already has an intake and i can tell you from experience driving the car and riding in it, you will barely hear the turbo... its just too small.

Were talking about a teeny tiny TD04 13k..... not a 16G or an 18G like you two have.


the exhaust side on the 13K is about as big as a can of Arizona Tea/Juice you can get for $0.99. Sure it offers great spool.... but thats about it.

Its a good turbo for being stock as it offers great torque, which is essential for the stop and go traffic and also in the short to medium size autox courses.

YES, as i have said before, you are going to hear any turbo when you install an intake on it. you will hear it clear as day inside the cabin.

but not every turbo is like this.


noise is just a by-product.


If you are modding for the noise, then you are wasting money that could be better spent elsewhere on the car such as an audio system or a real nice wheel and tire package.

I own a 1995 RX-7, my only mods to it are an APEX power FC ECU, Re-Amemiya dolphin tail titanium exhaust, and Blitz intake with stainless steel mesh filters.... not once do i ever hear my twins on my FD spool. and i have boost set to 18psi on my stage 3 BNR's which are upgraded stock twins.

I have also owned an MKIV supra with BPU+++ and the only time ever heard the modified stock HT18 turbos is when i am at WOT with the HKS intake i had on it. I hear the stock blow-off valve which is louder than my turbos.


I have an extensive background driving many cars. Mostly because i have great friends who let me take temporary ownership of the vehicles via a power of attorney when they get stationed over seas for 1 or 2 years. and i am very fortunate that most of them have been high class luxury and sports cars over the last 10 years. I actually ran a vehicle storage business for a few years and some of my closest friends actually sent me money to mod their cars for them until they get back.

Yes, i driven an SRT4.... yes you hear the turbo... big whoop. the SRT4's are a joke, the blow off at a stop light and when you turn them off. they are loud for no particular reason than to just annoy passersby. whoever thought that running no mufflers after the catalytic converters must have been seriously under the influence of something.

Flow mods arent going to do much except make more noise any way, i already knew that..... but the cars i have driven and/or owned, barely made a peep with mods and increased boost. Well designed, well crafted, efficient mods arent going to attract attention nor make noise... Im in a higher class of car than some neon, but i never forgot who i am, where i came from or how i act.

And I'm not ignorant by any means youngster. Never call me ignorant again. You done piss me off


Mind you know, those two videos i posted are of turbos that are much bigger than the factory twins that came on either of those cars. the RX-7 was upgraded to a large single and the size itself on the intake side is as big as a baby's head litterally.
Add to the fact that these aftermarket turbos on these cars are dual ball-bearing design they will inherently make a high-pitched noise when they spin any where from 60,000-120,000 rpms.

a normal cheap journal bearing turbo from factory turbo cars is not going to make much noise except the sound of a lot of air rushing around. But not all factory turbo cars have a journal bearing design, some have single ball bearing design that will make a high-pitch noise.

boostdog

when you drove the car with the intake on it did you by chance get to hear the car outside of the cabin?

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canhaz

I dont think anyone on this thread, including me is modding just for noise. Like I said, if I could keep outside noise to a minimum, as to not attract attention, that would be great. But personally, I love hearing the turbo sound, so I guess I was inquiring about getting that the sound without sacrificing performance, or without taking unnecessary measures "just for the sound".

FlesHBoX

wow, just.... wow.... I love the irony in that statement right there


Some people enjoy cars, some people enjoy bragging about getting x amount of power.

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xrattiracer

yeah, i thought the turbo WAS the audio system
I have a pretty good stereo in my merkur, but i rarely turn it up very loud since i prefer to hear the engine most times.

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boostdog

+1 i know people that rip audio systems / any sound deading just to hear the engine and make the car lighter.

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weaselfury

i've never owned a turbo car, but driven a couple. when i get my 2.0 i wanna hear the damn turbo! whats the point if i cant. im sure you'll be able to hear this thing at some point. if i can hear the tiny ass turbo on my brother-in-laws beetle TDI then I'm sure this one will sing with some mods

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J. Dub

1) I see why you're pissed. You own a 95 RX-7. I'd be mad as well.
2) This is the internets. We call it how we see it.
3) Why are you explaining yourself to the newb? If you were as old as you say you were you'd a read that post and just moved along.

Go e-thug somewhere else old man.

FlesHBoX

well don't get me wrong, I plan to have a kickin' stereo system in my gen and crank it up all the time! If it's too loud then you're too old

I just ALSO love the noise that a car makes. It just moves the soul you know? when you hear a nicely tuned engine off in the distance? you always kind of crane your neck a bit to see if it WAS a Camaro, or a Mustang... just to test yourself.

cars and motor spots have always had noises attached to them as an almost central core element. If you have not seen Truth in 24 I strongly suggest you download it on iTunes (it's available for free) and watch at least the first 20 minutes or so.

There is a point early on where one of the interviewees is talking about the LaMans experience and the noise. Talking about how every car on the track had a different sound and how they are all distinguishable from one another, so you could tell without looking which team was coming around the bend.

The noise that a car makes is like a warm blanket. Like meatloaf, chickn' noodles, or apple pie.... it warms your heart, even the the sub cockle area.

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Grey Ghost

Yes I did. When my buddy went easy on it..... nothing. When he got in boost, a noticable deep sound

That was an ignorant post

1) I never had any problems with my FD, FC, FB or SA. only the ignorant and neglectful make these statements about a car most dont understand.
2) Another ignorant statement, blaming it on the internet
3)I am not as old as you think I am. Nor will I ever mention my age.

BTW, Whoever said anything about E-Thugging? I was simply expressing some frustration

Moosh

My guess is you want it to sound more like this?

Auto-xing the Sti- Video

The easiest way is to get a short ram intake. They can be expensive, but they do make it quite a bit louder.

Grey Ghost

I've watched Truth in 24, i enjoyed it.

True every car has a distinct sound. I enjoy the sound any engine makes, but sometimes, I just like to cruise around and not have to hear anything but some music. Not all of the cars I have owned made any delightful noises as much as my current cars.

Grey Ghost

im confused... I never knew a short ram could make your stock turbo sound like an upgraded unit

canhaz

I think my question was answered: Stock turbo = little to no sound

... stop all the hatin!

Kinda off topic, but I honestly think this is the best sound in the world


:bowd own:: bowdown:

Grey Ghost

Gotta love german V8's, they always tickle my fancy.

I love the camera angle, i havent seen a camera mounted in that position in a long while.

Kai

<3

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