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2.0T vs 3.8 V6

Alright guys i am debating on either a baseline 2.0t or the baseline V6 and my main consideration right now is this.. I have a lot of miss giving for a turbo powered engine due to Turbo's are EXPENSIVE to fix.

GAS! I remember their was a time they said do not use anything below 91 octane on a turbo powered engine because it will increase wear on the turbo. If thats the case and the 2.0T requires me to use Premium I am going to go with the V6.


Can you guys shed any light on the situation? I would rather get the 2.0 due to price but i don't want to be forced to use Premium gas due to the price of said gas.
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You do not have to use premium for the 2.0. 87 works just fine.

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2.0 uses regular octane gas! It all depends on what you want and what you are going to do with the car. Yes the extra power is quite nice but it was cheaper for me insurance wise to stick to the inline 4 and cheaper price.

Also about fixing a turbo. Remember Hyundai has a 5 year B2B warranty!
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Again with the 2.0T vs 3.8 thread....
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If you're considering the base V6 or base 2.0, why not get the 2.0T premium instead?

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2.0 uses regular octane gas! It all depends on what you want and what you are going to do with the car. Yes the extra power is quite nice but it was cheaper for me insurance wise to stick to the inline 4 and cheaper price.

Also about fixing a turbo. Remember Hyundai has a 5 year B2B warranty!
The turbo should be covered by the 10 year/100,000 drive train warranty, no?

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The turbo should be covered by the 10 year/100,000 drive train warranty, no?
I would assume so i forgot about the 10 year powertrain. But who knows
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im pretty sure they dont exclude models from that warranty

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Alright guys i am debating on either a baseline 2.0t or the baseline V6 and my main consideration right now is this.. I have a lot of miss giving for a turbo powered engine due to Turbo's are EXPENSIVE to fix.

GAS! I remember their was a time they said do not use anything below 91 octane on a turbo powered engine because it will increase wear on the turbo. If thats the case and the 2.0T requires me to use Premium I am going to go with the V6.


Can you guys shed any light on the situation? I would rather get the 2.0 due to price but i don't want to be forced to use Premium gas due to the price of said gas.
Get the 2.0T. It will treat you well and it will be backed by America's Best Warranty. Also, 87 octane works well with the 2.0T. The owner's manual even states that the recommended fuel is 87 octane.

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I asked-- the turbo is include in the 100k warranty.

I don't know if this is true or not, but i was told the ecu cuts boost on 87 octane by 2 psi over 93 by means of knock detection.
if you're commuting, 87 is ok. if you're going to have fun, tank up with 93. the ecu will adjust for you.

the 2.0t also gets better mileage than the v6. (i'm getting 24 city, 31 highway roughly, and that includes some pulls/screwing around).

IMO, the 2.0t is where it's at. it's the tuner car. The v6 guys will pop in and rant all about it, but fact remains, 90% of the guys making power will be on the 2.0t.

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if you can afford a $400+ a month car payment, you should be able to afford 40 cents more per gallon. I put nothing but 93 in mine for the 10 extra HP, I think the v6 add's about 5 or 6 extra with 93? Every little bit helps.

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if you can afford a $400+ a month car payment, you should be able to afford 40 cents more per gallon. I put nothing but 93 in mine for the 10 extra HP, I think the v6 add's about 5 or 6 extra with 93? Every little bit helps.
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I asked-- the turbo is include in the 100k warranty.

I don't know if this is true or not, but i was told the ecu cuts boost on 87 octane by 2 psi over 93 by means of knock detection.
if you're commuting, 87 is ok. if you're going to have fun, tank up with 93. the ecu will adjust for you.

the 2.0t also gets better mileage than the v6. (i'm getting 24 city, 31 highway roughly, and that includes some pulls/screwing around).

IMO, the 2.0t is where it's at. it's the tuner car. The v6 guys will pop in and rant all about it, but fact remains, 90% of the guys making power will be on the 2.0t.

The gas mileage isn't that much better than the v6. I get 22-24 city 28-32 hwy. I am not the only one who has had results like this.

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Baton rouge is pretty flat, is it not? I live in some pretty hilly areas.
All that aside, sticker for sticker, the 4-banger does get a couple ticks better mpg (as expected)

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I asked-- the turbo is include in the 100k warranty.

I don't know if this is true or not, but i was told the ecu cuts boost on 87 octane by 2 psi over 93 by means of knock detection.
if you're commuting, 87 is ok. if you're going to have fun, tank up with 93. the ecu will adjust for you.

the 2.0t also gets better mileage than the v6. (i'm getting 24 city, 31 highway roughly, and that includes some pulls/screwing around).

IMO, the 2.0t is where it's at. it's the tuner car. The v6 guys will pop in and rant all about it, but fact remains, 90% of the guys making power will be on the 2.0t.
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Baton rouge is pretty flat, is it not? I live in some pretty hilly areas.
All that aside, sticker for sticker, the 4-banger does get a couple ticks better mpg (as expected)

heck yeah mostly flat....

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Again with the 2.0T vs 3.8 thread....
He asked a valid question about fuel and longevity Not which is better.

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I asked-- the turbo is include in the 100k warranty.

the 2.0t also gets better mileage than the v6. (i'm getting 24 city, 31 highway roughly, and that includes some pulls/screwing around).
I'm getting 20-23 City and 27-32 highway with LOTS of screwing around, the 3.8 gets arguably as good or better mileage than the 2.0 in real world driving, IMO. I live in a city built around a very steep river valley that's sitting at 2190 feet above sea level.
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I asked-- the turbo is include in the 100k warranty.

I don't know if this is true or not, but i was told the ecu cuts boost on 87 octane by 2 psi over 93 by means of knock detection.
if you're commuting, 87 is ok. if you're going to have fun, tank up with 93. the ecu will adjust for you.

the 2.0t also gets better mileage than the v6. (i'm getting 24 city, 31 highway roughly, and that includes some pulls/screwing around).

IMO, the 2.0t is where it's at. it's the tuner car. The v6 guys will pop in and rant all about it, but fact remains, 90% of the guys making power will be on the 2.0t.
And those 90% will have no warranty. If your going base vs base, go with the V6 man. There is nothing like 300 hp to the rear wheels.

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There is nothing like 300 hp to the rear wheels.
Anyone putting 300hp in a v6 to the rear wheels also has no warranty....

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I asked-- the turbo is include in the 100k warranty.

I don't know if this is true or not, but i was told the ecu cuts boost on 87 octane by 2 psi over 93 by means of knock detection.
if you're commuting, 87 is ok. if you're going to have fun, tank up with 93. the ecu will adjust for you.

the 2.0t also gets better mileage than the v6. (i'm getting 24 city, 31 highway roughly, and that includes some pulls/screwing around).

IMO, the 2.0t is where it's at. it's the tuner car. The v6 guys will pop in and rant all about it, but fact remains, 90% of the guys making power will be on the 2.0t.
You need to do your research before you make that kind of argument. With bolt-ons, the 2.0t won't go anywhere above 250-260whp (current record is 250whp)... whereas on the 3.8, bolt-ons won't go anywhere above 340-350whp (current record is 330whp). Cost of bolt-ons for either car is about the same. If you start higher, you end higher. They seem to be equal in bang for the buck at this point.

Bolt-ons do not include internals, and/or a bigger turbo (or a turbo for a V6).
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Anyone putting 300hp in a v6 to the rear wheels also has no warranty....
Bolt-ons hardly effect a warranty.

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My main concern is longevity of the engine and fuel economy. The reason i did not list the 2.0T premium was due to i would rather just keep everything base for the sake of Price.


Turbos i know generally are finicky on what type of fuel they like and tend to need a lot of maintance.
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