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Old 07-21-2010, 06:56 AM   #1
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If a dealer is selling a car as "new" then what is the maximum acceptable mileage? For example, would a car with less than 600 miles still be considered new because it hasn't finished the break-in period?

I'm not saying I've seen a car being sold as new with 599miles on it. I'm just curious. I recently saw a 3.8 Track online with 81 miles on it.
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I'm not sure if there is some magical number to answer your question. Certainly, if the dealer has to do a swap with another to get the desired car - it might have some extra miles on it by the time it gets to you.
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I personally wouldn't buy a sports car with more than 20 miles on the odometer. 81 miles means it has been on lots of test drives, and probably abused by asshats with no intention of buying.
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Pretty sure any car they sell can be considered "new" as long as it hadn't been titled.
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New is when a car is sold without a previous owner from the dealership floor. When I worked at Honda, we sold a car as new with 1600mi. The owner got full warranty (as all first owners do) instead of the compromised warranty that the secondary owner would get.
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It can have whatever mileage it has. The dealership can sell it as new if it has not been titled previously.

Warranty starts from whatever the odometer reading was at the time of purchase. So if your car had 10,000 miles on it when you bought it new and the warranty is for 50,000, then it will expire at 60,000 per the odometer reading.
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what CrookedH and Pure Adrenaline said... we've gotten cars from the auction with even 15,000 miles and they're considered new, they have an open mso/never been titled
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I had to wait for my M Blue Manual to come in, so they put me into a white Auto and I put about 200 miles on it before they got my car.
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i bought my car new with 171 on it.

The dealership finance manager had it as his car for a week.
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mine had 37 FOB
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Mine had 8.8

anywhoo... somebody in the 2011 thread discovered the real reason why some cars have a lot of miles:


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15 miles here: Which was a lot for my taste, but considering I've driven it like I stole it for the last 500 miles, it probably made little to no difference.
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Follow up question: Hefley said he prefers new cars with less than 20mi on them. What kind of preference do the rest of you have?
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It can have whatever mileage it has. The dealership can sell it as new if it has not been titled previously.

Warranty starts from whatever the odometer reading was at the time of purchase. So if your car had 10,000 miles on it when you bought it new and the warranty is for 50,000, then it will expire at 60,000 per the odometer reading.
Incorrect, warranty starts at 0 odometer reading & date vehicle went into svc. If you purchase it with 10k on it, the warranty still runs out at 5yr/60k. Yet, I've seen sales mgrs add additional extended warranty for customers who have purchased higher mileage vehicles.

JFYI, we (my dealership) are not allowed to sell our loaners as new once they breach 5k miles.
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"NEW" is a car that hasn't had an owner yet.

Technically, a car that has 3k miles on it, that the dealership simply drives to get lunch and such, is considered a new car. Of course with miles like that, the prices drops a bit, but it's technically not "used", since no one has owned the car yet.

Mine had 512miles on it, new.
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hasn't been titled /discussion
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Not that I don't appreciate the input from iNXXT and mmrp81, but because the technical definition of "new car" has been provided multiple times already, I'm more interested in...

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Follow up question: Hefley said he prefers new cars with less than 20mi on them. What kind of preference do the rest of you have?
When buying a new car, what's the max mileage you're comfortable with?
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Incorrect, warranty starts at 0 odometer reading & date vehicle went into svc. If you purchase it with 10k on it, the warranty still runs out at 5yr/60k. Yet, I've seen sales mgrs add additional extended warranty for customers who have purchased higher mileage vehicles.

JFYI, we (my dealership) are not allowed to sell our loaners as new once they breach 5k miles.
Umm, incorrect.

My car had 2.9 miles on it when I bought it. I was told that my warranty would expire at 50,002.9 miles.

I just spoke with someone who has been in the business for a LONG time. He does parts, warranty, etc for Acura, Honda, Mitsubishi, etc. He said it would expire at warranty mileage + odometer reading at the time of purchase.

I also just spoke with the Director of Quality Control, Assurance and Evaluation at an OEM who deals with warranty claims. Same answer. The warranty is "extended" to include the mileage at the time of purchase.
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Not that I don't appreciate the input from iNXXT and mmrp81, but because the technical definition of "new car" has been provided multiple times already, I'm more interested in...



When buying a new car, what's the max mileage you're comfortable with?
Not sure why people are ignoring the new question... but it really comes down to personal preference. My parents just bought a Camaro SS, and they found one that just came off the truck, still had the plastic on and had never been test driven. To me (and them) that's ideal, but if you're looking for something very specific (like you are) it may not be possible to find one that new.

I figure most cars hit the dealership lot with 4-6 miles on them. The average test drive is probably 2-5 miles (with some lasting as much as 10-20 miles). With the GC if you bring another person, the salesman isn't coming with, which means most people are probably going to drive it rough, especially if they don't plan to buy it.

So it really comes down to personal preference. How many people are you comfortable with having driven your new car, and how many rough miles are you comfortable with. Another thing: my car had 15 miles on it, and it already had 2 scratches below the driver door handle (from fingernails or rings) and a scratch on the interior driver-side door panel. Granted I'm bit more anal retentive than most, but those 3 scratches will always be there, and although they're small, and most people might never see them, I notice them every time I get in or out of the car.
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if the car have more than 15 km or miles on it, its not BRAND NEW for me anymore.
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