"new" AUSSIE Info - BKCOUPE . . .

ER101160 · 09-09-2008, 03:25 PM

Yes a rehash of the same info but their is some new info on the V6 GLS and pricing...$33000.00 ? I work with a Korean guy and he said that most cars over their are 20-30% higher in pricing than the states.
I hope they repackage the options as stated in the pre-release info. (I want that premium stereo if specs are good,heard the 605-watt version and it rocks !!!)
The V6 GT / GLS is still looking favorable.

Hyundai Genesis Coupe Korean Specifications and Pricing

usagi · 09-09-2008, 04:10 PM

What's this 6.5sec 0-60 (100kmh) crap? Haven't they consistently said <6sec 0-60? I know that 100kmh is about 62, but it shouldn't take over half a second to go an extra 2mph.

First the weak tranny specs, and now this. I'm starting to think Hyundai cut a few too many corners on this car.

James519 · 09-09-2008, 04:13 PM

don't worry 0-60mph will be under 6s as Hyundai has stated. I heard this from a reliable source that 6.5s 0-100kmh is underrated number.

And I don't know what you are talkin about the tranny specs... because I haven't really heard anything specific about them.
As far as I know, there is ZF 1st generation, and Hyundai's 5SPD automatic / 6SPD manual which have been completely redesigned from ground up will be offered...

Haven't really heard anything else about them yet. If you have the link please share?

usagi · 09-09-2008, 04:15 PM

I hope you're right. I know 0-60 time isn't the end-all be-all of performance, I just have high hopes for this car, and I don't want to be disappointed.

ER101160 · 09-09-2008, 05:46 PM

Also noticed that the ZF6 spd is not offered on the Korean version.

Anyone know why these cars are and hopefully will be different in the option sense ? They are coming out of the same car plant and you would think that it would easier production if everything was the same for both country's ?

Infinity vs JBL, which will it be ?

SUB-GEN · 09-09-2008, 06:09 PM

I beleive they made a mistake with the 5spd for the V6 because i read the 5spd cant handle all the TQ of the V6.

**FlesHBoX** · 09-09-2008, 07:10 PM

I am willing to bet that the 6.5 0-60 is the turbo 4 time, that would line up fairly well as an under rated time for the p/w of the 4, the p/w for the 6 puts it much closer to 5.5 than 6.5

I as well have heard nothing about the tranny weakness thing??

As for the 5speed on the v6, is that listed in the Korean specs? Cause everything we have heard so far says that the V6 will have a manual6 or a ZF6. They may just be doing it that way for the Korean market for whatever cost saving issue maybe? They would be daft to not come to the US with a Manual 6.

James519 · 09-09-2008, 07:26 PM

Just to let you guys know, I keep hearing from the Korean people(those very few lucky bastards) who have been on Gen-Coupe, doesn't matter V6 or 4 banger, that it was nothing less than spectacular.

I'm really really really excited for this car!!!

James519 · 09-09-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ER101160

Also noticed that the ZF6 spd is not offered on the Korean version.

Anyone know why these cars are and hopefully will be different in the option sense ? They are coming out of the same car plant and you would think that it would easier production if everything was the same for both country's ?

Infinity vs JBL, which will it be ?

ZF 6SPD Automatic is offered in Korea. And it is JBL.
Whoever translated here Hyundai Genesis Coupe Korean Specifications and Pricing deserves a cold slap in the groan.

usagi · 09-09-2008, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James519

don't worry 0-60mph will be under 6s as Hyundai has stated. I heard this from a reliable source that 6.5s 0-100kmh is underrated number.

And I don't know what you are talkin about the tranny specs... because I haven't really heard anything specific about them.
As far as I know, there is ZF 1st generation, and Hyundai's 5SPD automatic / 6SPD manual which have been completely redesigned from ground up will be offered...

Haven't really heard anything else about them yet. If you have the link please share?

I also put this into another thread, But I'll copy it here too.

The credit for the following documents goes to HYTECH at NewGenesisCoupe.com. (A highly certified Hyundai Tech)
Choose the free version and download

Theta Turbo engine
1._BK_Engine_Theta_TCI_Eng.doc -- FileFactory.com - free file hosting --
Lambda N/A engine
2._BK_Engine_Lambda_Eng.doc -- FileFactory.com - free file hosting --
5-speed auto trans
3._BK_A5SR_AT_Eng.doc -- FileFactory.com - free file hosting --
6-speed auto trans
4._BK_6HP19_AT_Eng.doc -- FileFactory.com - free file hosting --
6-speed manual trans
5._BK_M6VR12_MT_Eng.doc -- FileFactory.com - free file hosting --
Brake system
6._BK_Brake_Eng.doc -- FileFactory.com - free file hosting --
Body Electrical
7._BK_Body_Electrical_Eng.doc -- FileFactory.com - free file hosting --
Smart Button Starting
8._BK_Smart_Button_Start_Eng.doc -- FileFactory.com - free file hosting --
Air Conditioning
9._BK_Air_Conditioning_Eng.doc -- FileFactory.com - free file hosting --
Air Bag System
10._BK_Air_Bag_Eng.doc -- FileFactory.com - free file hosting --[/QUOTE]

To summarize:
The V6 doc doesn't list 0-60, but the i4t states that 0-60 is 8.4. I had an 83 Subaru GL wagon that was quicker than that.

The tranny doc states that the maximum torque allowed for the i4t 6spd manual transmission is 224.2 lb/ft (31kg). the V6 version max torque is 289 ft/lb (40kg), but this may be the clutch capacity instead of the tranny internals, as Ironmonk stated in the thread I pulled this from.

I want, as much as anyone, for these numbers to be incorrect. But considering this comes out of training docs for Hyundai techs, I'd say it's pretty accurate. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

**chris@vtengineering** · 09-09-2008, 10:21 PM

for such a heavy car, 212 hp 0-60 being 8.4 is sorta believable.

**FlesHBoX** · 09-09-2008, 10:59 PM

The problem with those numbers is that the P/W ratios don't line up. unless they have completely screwed over the coupe compared to the sedan, 6.5 for the V6 is too high. The V6 sedan is doing that or better. The coupe, while a pig, is still going to do it quicker than the Sedan with a slightly lower powered version of the same motor.

Considering the killer job that Hyundai did with the sedan, I just cannot believe that they would drop the ball THIS SEVERELY is some of these specs are accurate... Why even bother building the coupe if they are going to screw the pooch like this?

I find these to be somewhat suspect of accuracy...

James519 · 09-09-2008, 11:44 PM

for the love of god, even my piece o crap 1997 camry 3.0L V6 190HP (forget torque) 5SPD Automatic tranny claims that it can do 0-60 in 7.9s... and it's also around 3300+lbs too.

There is absolutely no way 2.0T will go over 8s, and there is absolutely no way 3.8 V6 will go over 6s

don't forget they kept mentioning 3.8L V6 will do 0-60mph in under 6 seconds... and they have been developing the car for YEARS they must have known what the car was capable of. I doubt they were bluffing because if they were, they will be in serious trouble when the car actually gets launched. They are trying to build up a brand image now. and bluffing will not help to achieve that in any ways.

Unless someone can prove me wrong, until then i'm gonna go with what i know.

**FlesHBoX** · 09-09-2008, 11:53 PM

I downloaded and zipped up all of those documents (in case you don't feel like downloading 2 documents at a time and having to enter in captchas....)

It's large, almost 90 MB, but it's all of them in a single download...

Right-click> Save As If it fails, try again, it is still uploading as I post.

Also, the two threads that are about the same thing should probably be merged together... this is confusing talking about the exact same thing in two threads

lunarc · 09-10-2008, 08:02 PM

Nice, thanks for zipping these up Flesh!

Galbi · 09-10-2008, 09:37 PM

The Korean engineers said that the 0-60 performance is equivalent to if not beats the G37.

j1234 · 09-12-2008, 07:25 AM

Everyone talking about power to weight ratio not lining up with acceleration numbers are not thinking about the gearing of the vehicle. Nobody knows how it's geared. It could have very tall economy minded highway gears and be a total slug for that reason alone.

**chris@vtengineering** · 09-12-2008, 07:54 AM

by the way, i don't know what i was typing about hte 8.4. i think i was going crazy. it was supposed to read, even though the coupe is a heavy car, 8.4 is not believable. ugh. anyway, yeah, 8.4 doesn't make sense at all. unless the gearing is all f'd up, and the person who tested 0-60 was a newb at driving (as in he coudln't find the gas pedal), it doesn't make sense.

pianoman · 09-12-2008, 07:21 PM

It says the engine is capable of 212+54...in HP numbers thats 265hp..?You mean the 2.0t will crack under 300hp? Thats kinda weak sauce...Unless it means the turbo is only capable of 265hp just like the trans it says its only good for 230tq or what not...I hope they mean the clutch..... not exactly excited...but i will wait to see what the aftermarket can make HP/TQ wise....

With all that Hyundai has put into this series....I really really can't see them being stupid enough to make a car that can't handle any type of decent HP.... Seriously...I think we might be reading this wrong.... Why build the hype just to shoot yourselves in the foot...

On a lighter note, the car doesn't run off a maf. It uses a map sensor...IF your wondering what that means it means you can vent your blow off valve to the atmosphere...(so everyone can hear the cool whistle noise)

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