2013 Genesis Coupe vs the competition - Comparison thread

[Scharf]

The 335i starts at $45k plus you will be paying about twice as much to keep it in service to 100k miles (over the GC).

I'll take the GC.

[JoeJxn]

Hello all

I just registered to ask this question:

I'm assuming (and hoping) that the 2013 Genesis Coupe 3.8 will be around 30k. It has more power so I'm assuming the price is going to be higher than the older models, but hopefully not by too much.

Anyways, if this is around 30k, I'm seriously considering getting one. But my question is this: In your opinion, would this be the best sports car to buy for around 30k? (New or used within a couple years) I've been looking around and this car looks like the best bang for the buck.

I have a 2011 Sonata right now and might trade it in for this. I liked the old Genesis Coupe but didn't get it, and bought the Sonata instead (idk why...), but now that these have more power and a new design, I might get one. I, however, don't like the navigation system in the Hyundai's and the "premium" sound systems are hardly worthy of being called premium, so that's a couple drawbacks for me.

I like the FR-S and the BRZ but I'm looking for something with more power out of the box and they're a little too light for me, plus I need 4 seats.

Thanks

[dboz]

Evo X or STI are better sports sedans for that sort of money. If you want two doors and RWD, it is hard to beat MUSTANG GT. The GC is different and nice but cannot perform like the others I mentioned. The X is 0-60 in 4.3.

[hawgs911]

Honestly Im kind of in the same boat. I like what the Gen has to offer in terms of "luxury" but the Mustang GT is awfully hard to ignore.

[suterp]

Me too. The mustang GT I think is the best performance bang for buck in the 30k range. I prefer the looks and uniqueness of the GC though, as there are tons of mustangs on the road where I live.

[gaveup]

Originally Posted by Eloy2011Genesis

the new gen is going to out-do the competition. the V6's are going to be one of the leaders in its class being faster then 370's, g37's and other v6's and staying with v8's. while the 2.0T will be realllyyy up there in its class staying with STi's and Evos etcc. wow i cant wait to drive one! lol

LOL. totally false......

I sincerely hope the new v6 is closer to the 370Z and G37's. For the price of the current 3.8, it should be. However, I don't see it being one of the leaders in it's class. I think it would be cool though if it does keep up with the mentioned cars.

And the 2.0T up in the class staying with STI's and Evo's? Uhm, no.

I think people need to get their hands on these cars in the states before assumptions of it being faster than XXXX car are made, much less try to compare it to leaders of the class they are in. No one knows if the engine is overrated or how the power delivery actually looks on the US spec version do they?

[2K11G3N]

Genious ^ we're obviously talking about whats on paper. These are all assumptions of course but whats on paper is all we have so thats obviously wha we're using to measure.. i thought that was obvious, but i guess for you it wasnt?

[2K11G3N]

and i said ONE of the leaders in its class... not LEADER of its class. Read and re-read before commenting

[2K11G3N]

and if the 2.0T is just 20 horsepower short of the Evo and STi how's it not in the class with them? dude just be quiet seriously. Twin scroll turbo also, similar in weight. BARELY less power, how's it not in their class? (sorry for the spamming but ppl are very frustratng on this site)

[Chr]

I don't think the genesis should be compared to the 370z, it's a two seater. G37 is a fair comparison though. I bet the new 3.8L genesis coupe keeps up with it and will probably even beat it in a straight line and around the track. Gencoupe also shouldn't be compared to the Mustang GT because naturally aspirated v6 to v8 isn't really a fair comparison. I'd still compare it to: camaro v6, mustang v6, challenger v6, G37, accord coupe v6, altima coupe v6, BRZ and FRS compare to the 2.0T because their lightness cancel out their lack of power from no turbocharging.

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by Chr

I don't think the genesis should be compared to the 370z, it's a two seater. G37 is a fair comparison though. I bet the new 3.8L genesis coupe keeps up with it and will probably even beat it in a straight line and around the track. Gencoupe also shouldn't be compared to the Mustang GT because naturally aspirated v6 to v8 isn't really a fair comparison. I'd still compare it to: camaro v6, mustang v6, challenger v6, G37, accord coupe v6, altima coupe v6, BRZ and FRS compare to the 2.0T because their lightness cancel out their lack of power from no turbocharging.

Hopefully they will be faster, but we won't be able to tell until the reviews.
GCs are heavy, gearing doesn't seem to be good, hopefully everything changes (except the weight) with the new ones.

Although I am eyeballing a 2010 2.0T GT right now with only 40,000kms = approximately 24,854miles for a very fair price.

[gaveup]

Originally Posted by Eloy2011Genesis

and i said ONE of the leaders in its class... not LEADER of its class. Read and re-read before commenting

Originally Posted by Me

...I don't see it being one of the leaders in it's class....much less try to compare it to leaders of the class they are in.....

Speaking of re-reading...I never said it was implied the the 2013's would be CLASS LEADING. You're welcome to scan through and analyze every word I typed and show me where exactly this was stated, much less implied.

Originally Posted by Eloy2011Genesis

and if the 2.0T is just 20 horsepower short of the Evo and STi how's it not in the class with them? dude just be quiet seriously. Twin scroll turbo also, similar in weight. BARELY less power, how's it not in their class? (sorry for the spamming but ppl are very frustratng on this site)

Well for one, they aren't really in the same "class" really. Genesis is a RWD cheaper coupe (price, not a stab at the car) and STis and Evos are AWD sedans. Also, as far as SCCA classification goes, I assure you the 2013 GC will not be running in the same stock classes as stis and evos.

Although, I will gladly eat crow once track times come out and the 2013 GC is turning faster times than the STI/Evo. I'd really even be impressed if it is besting the regular model WRX's. I'd actually be happy to have that be the case. I like the underdogs. I'm in no way bashing the GC, I just think some people may need a reality check when it comes to their cars ego

[fasterthanu]

I hope some of you realize that the G37 isn't really that fast. Even the 348hp IPL G Coupe is only slightly faster than the 2010-2012 GC. The 2013 shouldn't have any problem showing the G37 coupe its new taillights. I think a comparison to the 370Z is a compliment to the GC. The Z is a smaller, lighter car. If you look at the power to weight ratio of the Z and the 2013 GC, you'll see that they are pretty close. Most tests of the Z has it going from 0-60 in 4.9s. That is be right around where the GC should be. If they could get close(if only off by a tenth or two), that's a win for Hyundai. In fact, that would be great marketing to present a 2+2 coupe that more than stacks up to the G37 for much less than a Z. Nissan/Infiniti has to be at least a little nervous.

As for the Evo/STI, it's unrealistic to think the GC could have comparable 0-60 times(you simply can't beat AWD for 0-60 acceleration), but I bet it would give both a run for their money in the 1/4mile and over. Ditto that for the GTI R.

And the person that mentioned the 335i, that's $46K including destination, for a car that is a total stripper model. Not even leather comes standard on the 3. And good luck finding a base BMW anything on a dealer lot. You can expect to be upsold to $60K+.

[dboz]

Originally Posted by fasterthanu

I hope some of you realize that the G37 isn't really that fast. Even the 348hp IPL G Coupe is only slightly faster than the 2010-2012 GC. The 2013 shouldn't have any problem showing the G37 coupe its new taillights. I think a comparison to the 370Z is a compliment to the GC. The Z is a smaller, lighter car. If you look at the power to weight ratio of the Z and the 2013 GC, you'll see that they are pretty close. Most tests of the Z has it going from 0-60 in 4.9s. That is be right around where the GC should be. If they could get close(if only off by a tenth or two), that's a win for Hyundai. In fact, that would be great marketing to present a 2+2 coupe that more than stacks up to the G37 for much less than a Z. Nissan/Infiniti has to be at least a little nervous.

As for the Evo/STI, it's unrealistic to think the GC could have comparable 0-60 times(you simply can't beat AWD for 0-60 acceleration), but I bet it would give both a run for their money in the 1/4mile and over. Ditto that for the GTI R.

And the person that mentioned the 335i, that's $46K including destination, for a car that is a total stripper model. Not even leather comes standard on the 3. And good luck finding a base BMW anything on a dealer lot. You can expect to be upsold to $60K+.

G37 is fast with the STILLEN supercharger.


The EVO X is at least a full second faster in the quarter than the 3.8 GC (if you think a 2.0 liter vs. a 3.8 liter is a fair comparo). The X will hit at least 160, I think the GC maxes at 153.

[MrSEO]

Dear lord, the Evo and the STi aren't at all competitors to the GC! Cmon guys be real! There is NOTHING similar between the GC and them except maybe the engine. And even the engine on the Evos are nicer than the ones on the GC.

AWD rally sedan vs RWD GT coupe?

HEY GUISE MY MINIVAN MAKES AS MUCH POWER AS THE NEW MAZDA 3. MANG MAH MINIVAN DAT SHIET GO SO FAST IT COMPETES WITH THE SPEED3!!!

[dboz]

Performance is performance bro, the rest is cosmetics and personal taste and preference.

[MrSEO]

Originally Posted by dboz

Performance is performance bro, the rest is cosmetics and personal taste and preference.

I agree, performance is performance.

However, for the average buyer, there's the bit about functionality too. And price too.

[dboz]

Originally Posted by MrSEO

I agree, performance is performance.

However, for the average buyer, there's the bit about functionality too. And price too.

Well this has always been the problem with sports cars. Not too much functionality and a lot of price. It is hard to justify the cost when you consider how impractical two door RWD cars are for most people, especially for a family.

[davidp]

and about track times .. if a set of camber bolts and decent tires is all you need to match the handling numbers of a Z then the 2013 will be a serious competitor..

[Stan]

Originally Posted by suterp

Me too. The mustang GT I think is the best performance bang for buck in the 30k range. I prefer the looks and uniqueness of the GC though, as there are tons of mustangs on the road where I live.

same here. Before buying my GC to replace my DSM, I was planing to buy a EVO. the 4 door sedan was slowing me for the purchase. than I heard a new RWD coupe buy hyundai, I wait 2 years before to the move. Because of the look first. The mustang GT have more potential, but not a unique look, as the GC. The taste is in the nature!!