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will this part require sanding for the relocating kit?


also, for the exisitng 12v piece, how do i detach it...?
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will this part require sanding for the relocating kit?


also, for the exisitng 12v piece, how do i detach it...?
No, on my car ( 2012 base ), nothing in the lower part required any sanding, only the top area where the blue lcd screen was requires sanding.

For me the existing 12v piece was held in with some black clips, on the inside. I can't really remember but I think we had to put a screwdriver on the inside of the 12v cylinder and push the black clips outward . We were able to get it apart without doing any permanent damage to anything.

You also have the automatic shifter, and I have the manual trans, so there may be slight differences in our equipment and how to route the audio cable.

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My audio cable is already routed from unavi
I think I may have to sand down the bottom part for it to fit
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I finally got around to starting my own install (I've been buying the parts piecemeal since January), and I'll mention a personal observation -- unless you're very concerned about it or you live in an area with unreliable GPS, don't bother with the Plexiglas bracket.

I used the metal bezel and the GPS on my Nexus 7 works perfectly fine: I brought it out on the road last night to confirm, and Torque was all too happy to confirm I had 12 satellites visible, 8 locked, and a precision of 6 m on the GPS signal.

The scarier problem with the metal bezel, of course, is that you're putting a metal object in direct contact with glass. To avoid that, in true hacker form I spaced the tablet from the bracket using soft foam weather stripping. The most laborious part of it was that because the weather stripping was about 1 cm (.4 in) wide, I had to cut it lengthwise with an Exacto knife prior to mounting it along the contact face of the metal bracket.

As a bonus that I suspect the plastic bracket might not have, I can gently slide the tablet in and out of the bracket without causing damage to the tablet -- I've had the bracket and tablet together for a while now without having gotten around to completing the dash install (I'm always anxious about any irreversible changes I make to my vehicle, and going to town with a Dremel is one of them), and every so often I take my tablet out of the bracket to enjoy it as a portable device. This also means that in the unlikely event the tablet is damaged, a new bracket won't be required. =)

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Cant believe i actually read through this whole thread. I'm glad i did tho. But just like to say Thank You for all the info. once i get the parts this thanksgiving, it should be a very smooth install.
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I relocated it to the side of the base of the shifter ( below the plastic panel and shift boot ). The duracell inverter is plugged into it, and it's laying to the left side of the bottom of the shifter, zip tied into place. You have to use the cigarette lighter to power the tablet, so it can't be mounted anywhere in the cabin. No pictures are really necessary here. There's nothing to really show lol.
First of all, amazing install. I have a tablet laying around so i'm ordering the parts to install and going to tackle this soon. Question about powering the tablet though. I'm currently using the cigarette lighter to power my radar detector, which I definitely want to keep. Is it possible to hardwire the tablet directly to the battery or something else that will allow it to power on on car start? I'm new to electrical mods so if that makes no sense send a virtual slap my way.
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Buy a radar detector hardwire instead and free up that charging port.

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Thanks! I'll look into that. All other parts have been ordered.

Also do the metal tablet holders just block GPS or will they also block bluetooth and wifi? I have stock nav so I don't need GPS but I will need the others.
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I finally got around to starting my own install (I've been buying the parts piecemeal since January), and I'll mention a personal observation -- unless you're very concerned about it or you live in an area with unreliable GPS, don't bother with the Plexiglas bracket.

I used the metal bezel and the GPS on my Nexus 7 works perfectly fine: I brought it out on the road last night to confirm, and Torque was all too happy to confirm I had 12 satellites visible, 8 locked, and a precision of 6 m on the GPS signal.

The scarier problem with the metal bezel, of course, is that you're putting a metal object in direct contact with glass. To avoid that, in true hacker form I spaced the tablet from the bracket using soft foam weather stripping. The most laborious part of it was that because the weather stripping was about 1 cm (.4 in) wide, I had to cut it lengthwise with an Exacto knife prior to mounting it along the contact face of the metal bracket.

As a bonus that I suspect the plastic bracket might not have, I can gently slide the tablet in and out of the bracket without causing damage to the tablet -- I've had the bracket and tablet together for a while now without having gotten around to completing the dash install (I'm always anxious about any irreversible changes I make to my vehicle, and going to town with a Dremel is one of them), and every so often I take my tablet out of the bracket to enjoy it as a portable device. This also means that in the unlikely event the tablet is damaged, a new bracket won't be required. =)

Thanks for the input, I would definitely recommend that most people at least try to find some sort of plastic bezel to mount their tablets in and only use the metal one as a last resort. There are numerous other members on this forum that reported a gps blockage issue on the 1st gen nexus tablet with the metal bezel. It might not just affect accuracy, it also affects the length of time it takes to reacquire a signal after you lose it. If it's working for you though, then dont change a thing!

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First of all, amazing install. I have a tablet laying around so i'm ordering the parts to install and going to tackle this soon. Question about powering the tablet though. I'm currently using the cigarette lighter to power my radar detector, which I definitely want to keep. Is it possible to hardwire the tablet directly to the battery or something else that will allow it to power on on car start? I'm new to electrical mods so if that makes no sense send a virtual slap my way.
You should have a second 12v port in your arm rest console? You can run your radar detector off that. You can just put a 12v splitter there and power both your cell phone and radar dector off it. Or you can put a 12v splitter on the one you use for the tablet and run power to your radar detector from there. I like to avoid splicing OE wiring as much as possible.

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Thanks! I'll look into that. All other parts have been ordered.

Also do the metal tablet holders just block GPS or will they also block bluetooth and wifi? I have stock nav so I don't need GPS but I will need the others.
I think it's just GPS that is the main issue

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Mine works just fine with the included metal bracket that my type B dash kit came with...
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I didn't test the metal bracket at all, i read enough people complaining about it and decided not to try for myself. The whole reason the necco bezel came into existence to begin with is to cure the intermittent to severe gps issues caused by the metal bezel. It was enough of a problem that many people tried many different solutions, and finally this necco guy came along and made something nearly perfect. Someone even went as far as to post a circuit board photo of the nexus to show the exact location of the gps. Keep us posted on if you ever have issues with it down the road. It will be good for future readers to know, if you don't have to go through the trouble of using a plastic bezel, that definitely makes the whole job cheaper and easier.

If you actually read all the way through this thread, you'll get all the info: ( its long as sh*t though )

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I have rigged a temporary installation using some plastic and 3m tape, to my amazement the GPS works perfectly and has not dropped a signal once (I unplugged my GPS booster for this test).

I just ordered a sheet of ABS plastic online and I plan to use the metal piece as a template to create something similar out of plastic. Plastic does not block GPS signals but metal does.
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Maybe this will help.....
Nexus 7 open: http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/1...n4UKYoEVx.huge

Red square = GPS
Orange square = NFC
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so it appears the GPS chip is right above the power button.


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I grabbed two thin small plexiglass sheets from Home Depot. I used the metal bracket as a template, used a sharp edge to mark my path, and cut it out with a dremel. I found some screws a little longer than what came with the bezel. (I bought 2 in case the first messed up. I did mess it up, so I used that as a template for the 2nd and it was perfect. $1.97 each).

1. I placed the plexiglass BEHIND the Nexus 7 and screwed it in half way, sandwiching the Nexus between the bezen and plexiglass.
2. I held it in my hands, lined up the screen display so it was perfect, and had my wife put two small squares of 3M Double-sided tape between the Nexus and the Plexiglass.
3. I held it in place while my wife screwed in the rest of the screws, bending the plexiglass slightly and having the screws tighter on the bottom to help keep it from sliding down (also the purpose of the 3M).


I also used a 90º angle 3.5mm m/f 3.5mm jack for the audio cord so it wouldn't be sticking out directly from the tablet. The adapter isn't necessary, but definitely made it better since the audio cable wasn't bending so much.

The plexiglass makes the GPS MUCH better. With the metal bracket, the GPS was worthless - it worked less than 50% of my interstate drive this morning. Now I have a full signal and it said it was accurate to 23 feet from INSIDE my garage.
There's lots and lots more info in that thread...if yours is working with the metal bezel, that's very good to know- at least it is possible for it to work for some people.

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I went ahead and snagged up Necco's last plexi bracket so I didn't have to deal with the possible issues. Tons of great info in here!

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So you guys are with 1 gen Nexus? Wonder if the 2nd gen makes any difference cause this is what I have and no issues at all. Maybe I'm just a lucky guy!
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The 2nd gen might have the GPS chip in a whole different location that is not blocked off by the metal bezel. If I can find a circuit layout of the 2nd gen, i'll post it.

On another note, I have found the low end of the temperature range for charging the nexus. Earlier in this thread I found the high end. Now I have realized that the Nexus will not charge when it is below 25F out. As soon as the tablet warms up a few degrees past that, it will begin charging. Again this all pertains to the 1st gen nexus, the 2nd gen might have different temperature ranges and a superior battery.

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Yeah, it's super nice; battery lasts about 10 hours from just watching hulu/youtube and browsing the net... Sometimes I just want to take it out and pop my magellan back in there as I feel like it's just way too nice to sit there as it can be used for a lot more than just GPS and music.
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This is the best I can find for the 2nd gen nexus:


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I think it is part #5- that seems to be where all of the other wireless radios are located. It looks like the 2013 model uses a different, split motherboard layout and almost no part of it would be covered by the bezel

If i'm understanding this picture correctly:


It looks like the part #5 would sit a couple of inches in from the side of the tablet. Worst case scenario it would be only partially covered by the bezel instead of completely covered.

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