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post #41 of 3028 Old 08-25-2014, 05:26 PM Thread Starter
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Alright, I have a question. What are the options for headlight housings for cars that came with HIDs? does a regular halogen housing work if I want a different look? The only specific HID housings I can find are 1000+ dollars, and i really don't want to go through with cracking my HIDs open just to paint/install daytime LEDs. Thanks for the help.
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a. You can go to theretrofitsource.com and get true HID projector housings for under $200 for a retrofit kit. You will have to open your headlights to install the kit.

b. You can install HIDs in your halogen projectors. The cutoff isn't as sharp as if you had a true HID projector bowl that is shaped to optimize xenon lighting, but it works. You don't have to open your headlights to install xenon bulbs, but there is some wiring you will have to do. I highly recommend getting a harness.

c. If you want to improve the cutoff you can open your headlights and replace the lenses with theretrofitsource.com's Black lens kit.


HIDs in stock halogen projectors with clear lenses installed.

The cutoff with Xenon bulbs in halogen projectors is sharp enough that you can aim the beam so that you don't blind oncoming drivers (nice when you are on a dark 2 lane road and don't want to experience a head on collision). Two resources that you can use to ensure a perfect fit are Diode Dynamics and Xenon Depot who are vendors that support our platform. They are not the least expensive HIDs you can buy, but both vendors will make sure that what you get actually fits.
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So basically if I want to buy an aftermarket headlight and keep my stock HIDs, and retain the current cutoff i'd have to crack open the aftermarket headlight and install a different lense? I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying. Thank you for the patience.
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I think that you are misunderstanding what I am saying because we aren't using the same language here.

  • The headlight is the entire housing assembly.
  • The projector is just the projector housing inside the headlight housing assembly.
  • HIDs are xenon bulbs.


You cannot buy an aftermarket headlight that you can use your stock HIDs. There are no aftermarket off the shelf headlights that are modified for HIDs, much less the DS1 Xenon bulb that are in stock HID headlights. This applies to 10-12 Genesis Coupes only; there are no aftermarket headlights for 13+ models as of yet. You can get a retrofit kit and modify your existing headlights or, as you mentioned, pay $1000+ to have someone else retrofit them for you.

You would have to retrofit an aftermarket headlight with an HID retrofit kit if you wanted true HIDs. You would have to open the headlight housing to do this modification.

You can purchase H1/H7 (depending on what bulb the aftermarket headlight uses) HID kits that include the xenon bulb, wiring, and ballast. This modification does not require you to open the housing.

Halogen projectors use a fresnel lense to help distribute the light. HIDs need a clear lense to project a sharper cutoff; however, it will never be as sharp as a true HID projector because the bowl shape is not optimized for a Xenon bulb.


HID 5K kit installed in Spyder headlights. Note the sharper cutoff line but the bowl shape causes a hotspot in the center because the bowl is optimized for halogen bulbs.
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I think that you are misunderstanding what I am saying because we aren't using the same language here.

  • The headlight is the entire housing assembly.
  • The projector is just the projector housing inside the headlight housing assembly.
  • HIDs are xenon bulbs.


You cannot buy an aftermarket headlight that you can use your stock HIDs. There are no aftermarket off the shelf headlights that are modified for HIDs, much less the DS1 Xenon bulb that are in stock HID headlights. This applies to 10-12 Genesis Coupes only; there are no aftermarket headlights for 13+ models as of yet. You can get a retrofit kit and modify your existing headlights or, as you mentioned, pay $1000+ to have someone else retrofit them for you.

You would have to retrofit an aftermarket headlight with an HID retrofit kit if you wanted true HIDs. You would have to open the headlight housing to do this modification.

You can purchase H1/H7 (depending on what bulb the aftermarket headlight uses) HID kits that include the xenon bulb, wiring, and ballast. This modification does not require you to open the housing.

Halogen projectors use a fresnel lense to help distribute the light. HIDs need a clear lense to project a sharper cutoff; however, it will never be as sharp as a true HID projector because the bowl shape is not optimized for a Xenon bulb.


HID 5K kit installed in Spyder headlights. Note the sharper cutoff line but the bowl shape causes a hotspot in the center because the bowl is optimized for halogen bulbs.
i thought there were a few, like the mini h1 projector, that you can just mount mount onto the back without cutting open the headlights? but i could be wrong

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i thought there were a few, like the mini h1 projector, that you can just mount mount onto the back without cutting open the headlights? but i could be wrong
I'm not sure how you would pull the old projector out or get the new projector in without opening the headlights.

On a positive note, you don't have to cut them open. The clear part and the back of the housing are glued together using butyl rubber than can be softened up using a heat gun or by heating the entire assembly in the oven. That doesn't mean they are easy to open, but it does mean you can put the Dremel away

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okay, I think I understand now, thanks for the help.
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I'm not sure how you would pull the old projector out or get the new projector in without opening the headlights.

On a positive note, you don't have to cut them open. The clear part and the back of the housing are glued together using butyl rubber than can be softened up using a heat gun or by heating the entire assembly in the oven. That doesn't mean they are easy to open, but it does mean you can put the Dremel away
That was what I meant. Saying cut them open was just quicker than saying "heat up the butyl so it softens up so that you can then pull them apart" lol

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Still no reply to my question, I'm sure plenty of genesis coupe users have used DDM tuning headlights and could help me out, but cannot not find my post since it was moved to here.
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Have you contacted DDM Tuning to find out if they have a solution to your problem?

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I've tried, no reply.
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The problem here is you went to a retailer that doesn't support our platform and isn't invested in helping our community. If it was a Genesis Coupe vendor the community can put pressure on the vendor to make things right. With an outside vendor... not so much.

It's a shame that you purchased something that the vendor will provide no support for. A lot of people purchase from DDM Tuning and have no issues... but then again customer service doesn't come into play when the transaction goes well. Fortunately for you, DDM Tuning's prices are so low that you didn't lose out on a lot of money.

My recommendation is that you try contacting Diode Dynamics and speak with those folks about a possible solution to your problem if DDM Tuning doesn't answer you. Be prepared to hear that there's nothing that they can do because they do not know the product. In the future, you may want to do a little research on a vendor before buying. Caveat Emptor!

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How can I get the DRL's to be on at the same time as the fogs and headlights?
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You would have to rewire the DRLs. Check this thread for more info: http://www.gencoupe.com/electrical-w...-solution.html

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You would have to rewire the DRLs. Check this thread for more info: http://www.gencoupe.com/electrical-w...-solution.html
Thanks for your help! Really appreciate it!
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Ok so you may have seen in my thread but now my cars really low haha my underbody scrapes in my girlfriends driveway. I find my downpipe and flex pipe scrape and all the plastic shields do aswell. I'm gonna order a metal skid plate once I find one (from atq possibly). Is there anything else you can reccomend ?

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Or raise it, if you don't want to damage your car on a static setup.

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Lightbulb This may be a stupid question....

In life I've been told there is never a stupid question. I'm not sure if what I'm about to ask is stupid or not but here goes. I'm going to purchase a 2010 Genesis Coupe 3.8 GT on Sep. 23rd what I was looking into and after some research (going to google and looking at the sizes of both the 2010 and the 2013 models) The specs for the 2010 front end WIDTH: 6 ft. 1.4 in. (73.4 in.) while the 2013 front end is also WIDTH: 6 ft. 1.4 in. (73.4 in.) so what I was thinking in theory I'd be able to swap the entire front end of a 2013 coupe with the 2010 one. (I'm sure that there would be differences in terms of wiring and what not but hopefully I can work around that.) Another thing I was thinking was adding a Ark S-FX Legato Full Wide Body Kit Genesis Coupe by: Ark Performance Model: SFLF-0713 because they have virtually all of the same specs in terms of exterior measurements but to all the Vets please let me know what I can do. Thanks.
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You sure can swap the front ends, it's been done a few times: DIRTYLOUD's 13 front end conversion & ongoing pic thread

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Thanks for the help and the welcome. Also in terms of cost what would I be looking at?
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