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post #121 of 3117 Old 10-20-2014, 12:21 PM
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To an extent, I might agree. We have a number of members who have done FI mods on 3.8s who have little or no mechanical knowledge of what makes FI work. One that comes to mind immediately is a gentleman local to me who had a TurboXS turbo kit installed by a local performance shop here in Alabama. The performance shop handled all the communication with TurboXS to deliver to this very nice gentleman an award winning (yes.. he has actually won a few competitions with this car since it has been built) car that is quite reliable and is pushing 18 PSI on a built block. It takes very little knowledge to feed and care for an FI car versus any other type of car, especially if you have professional help on the build.

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I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. But with no knowledge at all, I'd suggest sticking to bolt ons to keep it safe. Last thing I would like to see is someone expecting longevity of adding that much power, blow their motor and then come and tell us we didn't warn him this could happen. So unless he understands the expression "you gotta pay to play", I wouldn't go beyond bolt ons.
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Truth... and I understand your concern. These are all things that a responsible builder would go over with his/her client before the build. Risk is something that comes with the Tuner/Modder badge of honor. This is why I started this thread with a link to my Ultimate Guide which is laden with warnings on risks. If someone chooses to ignore the risks and press on, ultimately it is their time and money that they are wasting and they do so of their own accord.

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Glad I spotted this thread and I hope this applies...
I was wondering about the certain stages of performance modifications..
this is what I got from my buddies with their mazdaspeed3's and just looking for clarification on how it would go for our gens
(I own a 2013 2.0t)


stage 1 - intake / exhaust / bov
stage 2 - intake / exhaust / bov / upgraded intercooler / turbo inlet pipe
stage 3 - intake / exhaust / bov / upgraded intercooler / turbo inlet pipe / downpipe / ecu tune


I know our cars don't have the turbo inlet pipe... I don't believe they do from what Ive seen. so just trying to get an idea of whats required when and why I guess.
Thanks guys, and sorry if this is really noobish but that's the thread right...... :/

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I always laugh when I see "stages" because it's all made up. Different tuners have different ideas about what goes into a "stage". I believe the whole thing was made up to simplify and answer the question: "What should I do first".

From that aspect, your "stages" apply to any car.

I believe the difference between Intake and "Turbo inlet pipe" is the difference between filter and pipe. Typically when we mod one, we mod the other; however, that doesn't have to be the case. You can keep your factory airbox and simply replace the filter with a high flow performance filter and then save the rest of the intake for a later mod.

Typically when we refer to a "Stage 3" upgrade, we are talking a turbo upgrade. Stage "3" being a small turbo on the existing manifold and Stage 3.5 or 4 replacing the entire turbo and exhaust manifold with a much bigger setup.

If we are talking tunes... as stage 1 tune typically does not require any bolt ons... stage 2 requires full bolt ons (intake / exhaust / bov / intercooler / exhaust). Stage 3 would require cat deletes and a new turbo. Stage 3+-4... exhaust manifold upgrade.

Bottom line is that "stages" are just guidelines... not rules. It will vary from tuner to tuner.... and not all "upgrades" are necessary on all platforms. For instance, the 13+ OEM intercooler is a vast improvement on the previous model years and it works very well for as far as you can push the stock turbo. This was not true of previous years. The other thing is that you can pull a whole lot more power out of the OEM parts on a 13+ than you could with previous model years. The secret is the upgraded internals and the twin scroll turbo Hyundai installed in the 13-14s.

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That really helps a lot! thanks man. I always questioned what people where talking about when they mentioned they are at stage two mods or whatever because from my understanding, stages were really only mentioned in ECU tunes.


Thanks again! really appreciate it! might use this thread often hahaha
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Hey does anybody know if the Isis Race Exhaust uses the same resonator as the Isis Street Exhaust? I asked a rep at DS Autosport and he says he thinks they may be different but does anybody know for sure?

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Here's a picture of the Isis Race Exhaust:



There is a long resonator in there... but it really doesn't do a whole lot but take some of the high pitch out of the exhaust.



The Isis Street also looks to have the same resonator... but a very big muffler changes everything.

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I do know they look similar but the grooves and definitions within the resonator itself would manipulate the sound wouldn't it? I understand the muffler would definitely quiet down the sound but lets say the axle back wasn't a factor. I'm trying to figure out if they both share the same resonator.

Or do you think the muffler would cancel out whatever noise the resonator replicates regardless?

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The way a resonator works is that it bounces sounds inside of the body canceling out sounds in frequencies that the resonator is designed to cancel out. In other words, resonators don't really make the exhaust quieter in as much as it changes the tone by not canceling out sounds in frequencies that it was not intended to cancel.

Mufflers do essentially the same thing only it cancels out sound in in a much wider range.

The difference between mufflers and resonators aside from the amount of sound that gets canceled out is the amount of exhaust restriction. Generally speaking, quieter is more restrictive.

So.. short answer is that if the resonator and muffler are designed to work together, one would not cancel out the tone produced by the other... but they work together to produce a single unique tone.
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So.. short answer is that if the resonator and muffler are designed to work together, one would not cancel out the tone produced by the other... but they work together to produce a single unique tone.
Thank you for that detailed explanation.

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I understand that 2010 genesis coupes have different endlinks than the newer models of the car. Will this pose and issue when installing, say BC racing coilovers? What would have to be changed in the process of installing these to get them to work? Thanks.
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The endlink lobes on the strut are in a different position on the 2010 models... so you would need to replace the strut and the endlink... which on the front end is basically the entire coilover.

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Hey does anybody know if the Isis Race Exhaust uses the same resonator as the Isis Street Exhaust? I asked a rep at DS Autosport and he says he thinks they may be different but does anybody know for sure?
Kind of stupid to quote myself. But for anybody wanting to know the answer to my question. I contacted Isis Performance and they said that the Isis Race and Isis Street does in fact use the same resonator. Just for future reference.

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Kind of stupid to quote myself. But for anybody wanting to know the answer to my question. I contacted Isis Performance and they said that the Isis Race and Isis Street does in fact use the same resonator. Just for future reference.
Not stupid at all, coming back and answering your own question when you find the solution is extremely helpful to others, it's what good forum contributors do.

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The endlink lobes on the strut are in a different position on the 2010 models... so you would need to replace the strut and the endlink... which on the front end is basically the entire coilover.
Don't BC coils come in two versions for the different end links? Or couldn't he just swap out the endlinks with a later years end links?
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Yes. You can swap endlinks and make it work.

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Is this a base 3.8 model or a GT like it is advertised. The seller says all 3.8 coupes are GT's but I'm confusing it with the grand touring package. There is no Gt badge anywhere. Is this normal? Are 3.8 GT's different than 3.8 grand touring models . Somebody please help. This seller has confused the heck outta me.
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3.8s come in three trim packages. 3.8 which is the GT package, 3.8 R-Spec, and 3.8 Track. Only the R-Spec has a special badge. 3.8 Tracks and R-Specs will come with Brembos and 19" wheels as a visual clue; however, the Track will have a Sunroof.

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Okay my turn!.

When i store my car for winter (Car would be parked outside). Shall i remove the battery from the car and keep it in a warm place or just disconnect the battery (Negative and positive) and leave it in the car?, Also shall i start the car like twice a month or once a month is good enough?

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Thanks. I live in Canada . Does that change anything ?
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