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Old 10-03-2011, 09:42 AM   #421
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FYI, for the lazy ppl who didn't read pages and pages of this thread,
enjoy!

Consumer report 2010

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copy/paste from recent consumer report....
i'm stickin' w/ my Pilot Alpin PA3~will let everyone know after the winter if it's worth the extra cost~

incase you guys dunno,
BEST > OK > BAD
RED circle > white circle > BLACK circle

btw, anyone have the newest 2011 consumer reports on winter tires - performance - regular? please post!
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I remember seeing that chart last year and wondering how accurate it really is. Ive used a few tires on that list and in real world conditions of the driving that I do, the Hankook iPikes were much better then the Continental Winter Extreme for example. The General Altimax are supposed to be a fantastic snow tire, but not so great on dry pavement and they wear very fast. I think theres even a few on that list that they dont make anymore.

Not saying its a bad list, but I think they should separate the list into dedicated snow tires and a more performance highway tires. Any snow tire will be better then an all-season or summer tire.
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I remember seeing that chart last year and wondering how accurate it really is. Ive used a few tires on that list and in real world conditions of the driving that I do, the Hankook iPikes were much better then the Continental Winter Extreme for example. The General Altimax are supposed to be a fantastic snow tire, but not so great on dry pavement and they wear very fast. I think theres even a few on that list that they dont make anymore.

Not saying its a bad list, but I think they should separate the list into dedicated snow tires and a more performance highway tires. Any snow tire will be better then an all-season or summer tire.
AGREED,

that's y i'm interested in seein' a 2011 list
however, the 2010 list i posted, have already seperated
performance winter tires (1st chart)
dedicated snow tires( (2nd chart)
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:56 PM   #424
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Hey everyone,

I've decided to get the Hankook W409 Ipikes with 17" alloy. What's the verdict on running staggered or squared? Which one would handle better and less likely to set off TCS at odd times?

If i'm not mistaken, ByByCavelier is running staggered and Icerian is squared. How are your rides in the winter in the various Ontario winter conditions?

Squared: 215/55/17
Staggered: F 215/50/17, R 215/55/17
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Well, I had no TCS issues at all, at any speed. I can't speak for the squared setup guys.

All I can tell you is that it worked perfectly for me. I had no issues getting stuck or loosing control. Traction was very linear. Tire slip will be encountered at launch if you are not careful with throttle inputs, but that is to be expected.

Handling was still confident, controllable and predictable as with the OEM summer/all seasons. However, the taller sidewall results in more body roll and less snappy steering response. The smaller contact patch in the rear will have less dry road traction, which may lead to increased over-steer and more dry pavement wheel spin on launch. On the flip side, you can cut through slush and deep snow better with the skinner, taller sidewall tires.

Keep in mind that the spongy, soft tire compound causes increased noise and steering harmonics/vibrations. The winter tire compound may feel spongy when cornering and a bit less eager to push the limits, ie you can't pull the same corner speeds and have different braking dynamics as you would with non-winter tires, ON DRY PAVEMENT (see how I stress that).

That all said, these tires are MILES ahead of the OEM tire(s) wet/cold/snow traction abilities. You will feel confident taking corners in snow pack, driving on cold, wet highways at speed, and stopping in town or on country roads.

Keep in mind that you may be able to stop in time because of your super awesome winter setup, but the retard behind you on bald summer tires tailgating you on the 401 in December probably not be able to stop. React accordingly, or suffer the same fate as me and a few others!
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Well, I had no TCS issues at all, at any speed. I can't speak for the squared setup guys.

All I can tell you is that it worked perfectly for me. I had no issues getting stuck or loosing control. Traction was very linear. Tire slip will be encountered at launch if you are not careful with throttle inputs, but that is to be expected.

Handling was still confident, controllable and predictable as with the OEM summer/all seasons. However, the taller sidewall results in more body roll and less snappy steering response. The smaller contact patch in the rear will have less dry road traction, which may lead to increased over-steer and more dry pavement wheel spin on launch. On the flip side, you can cut through slush and deep snow better with the skinner, taller sidewall tires.

Keep in mind that the spongy, soft tire compound causes increased noise and steering harmonics/vibrations. The winter tire compound may feel spongy when cornering and a bit less eager to push the limits, ie you can't pull the same corner speeds and have different braking dynamics as you would with non-winter tires, ON DRY PAVEMENT (see how I stress that).

That all said, these tires are MILES ahead of the OEM tire(s) wet/cold/snow traction abilities. You will feel confident taking corners in snow pack, driving on cold, wet highways at speed, and stopping in town or on country roads.

Keep in mind that you may be able to stop in time because of your super awesome winter setup, but the retard behind you on bald summer tires tailgating you on the 401 in December probably not be able to stop. React accordingly, or suffer the same fate as me and a few others!
Perfectly put. Wise words right there.

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Also, to answer flex, I believe it was 225/50 & 225/55 17s for for the staggered set up. At least thats what I had IIRC. I think the staggered is the safer bet, like ByByCavalier I had no issues. Ill let the square peeps chime in.

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Thanks for the replies.

Simply Tire offers 215/55/17 squared in their packages. Putting the staggered or squared debate aside, would 225 be the better choice?

As per SinSina, those with squared set up, please let us know your experience.

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Thanks for the replies.

Simply Tire offers 215/55/17 squared in their packages. Putting the staggered or squared debate aside, would 225 be the better choice?

As per SinSina, those with squared set up, please let us know your experience.
i asked Simpy tire to give me 215'50'17 and 215'55'17, paid like 10 or 20 bux more than square in either size

no tcs issue, i cut through all snow with no problem, skid on ice during a turn and recovered, ebraked and missed rear ending a car who cut into me, lightly hit a hidden curb at the rear during a turn in a parking lot and good thing i put 55 sidewalls there cause it almost nicked the steelie lol
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Posted in the wrong thread earlier until I found this thread..anyways
Guys, I walked in to Go For Tires a few days ago inquiring on winter tires and rims for my 2.0T non-Brembo. I wanted the cheapest package available and this is what I left with (left a $50.00 Deposit to reserve my package):

Fronts 215/55R17 (alternate of 225/50R17)
Rears 225/55R17
w/ 17" Universal fit Steelies
Toyo Snowprox S952
= $900.00 all-in installed + $70.00 Toyo Mail-in-Rebate on-top of that
If I wanted 17" alloys they have them for additional $270.00

I read the reviews on the Snowprox and they're pretty good from what I've read. Anyways, if you guys want a real good deal on winters check them out! Look for Tony or Peter at Go For Tires, great guys to deal with!
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Great find C3Chau. Where you able to get any pricing on Hankook iPikes?

Also, is it $900 inclusive of tax and OSD (tire tax)?

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Old 10-06-2011, 09:28 AM   #431
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Winter Tire Info 2011-2012 -from apa.ca

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Old 11-20-2011, 06:22 PM   #432
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So I started looking for winter rims and tires, problem is I hadn't a clue as to where I could look. I tried the dealer (aluminum rims and tires on 17") .... Over $1600.00 installed Wha? So I did a little foot work and found a place here in London that does new tires and rims plus locking nuts for about 1045.00 installed. Turns out the place Ive been meaning to stop into and check out for the past six months has the best rims and tires package deals around <----- that Ive found.

So this place is called Unauthorized Performane and their main selling point is tires and rims.

A set of 17" Aluminum rims and cooper winters = 1045.00 installed w/locking lugs (huge selection of rims at this price)

A set of 20" were approx $1950.00 installed w/locking lugs.

Now if you have found a better price...share man...I will make the trip. I also want aluminum rims as winters.

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the 20" rims and tires were for summer use before anyone asks why I would put 20" rims and tires on the car for winter
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First winter with the GC and I've never bought winter tires period before. Any good places in the Vaughan area? I have no idea what size I need etc. any help would be great. I've heard Costco has good prices but don't know what Im looking for.
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@ nizzSilvrGenC20

That sounds like a fair deal from what I've seen. When I bought my whole package last year it was around $1300 for tires, wheels, nuts, and install.
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Hey guys, read through this entire thread.. so much info! I must have overlooked it... does anyone know of cheap (steelies?) 18" rims that will clear BREMBOs?

Got 18" snow tires, but no wheels to put em on
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WTB 17" winter tires staggered setup

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Simply Tires groupbuy has started. From my research, they seem to have the best prices around. Slight discounts if you order early and/or install them yourself.
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Simply Tires groupbuy has started. From my research, they seem to have the best prices around. Slight discounts if you order early and/or install them yourself.
If I can find slightly used winters in staggered setup for a good price, I'd rather go that route. However, I did email them 2 days ago and havn't heard back yet, will give it a few more days.

I did get this quote from Go4Tires though, for whoever else is on the hunt:


2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe (non-Brembo) – Winter Steel Wheel & Tire Package

2 x 225/50R17 Front Winter Tires
2 x 225/55R17 Rear Winter Tires
4 x 17x6.5 Hyundai Hubcentric Steel Wheels (OEM Fitment)
4 x Michelin Plastic Bags OR disposal of old tires
4 x Mount, Balance, Installation (inc’s new valves)
**Optional Free Lifetime Flat Tire Repair


Package #1 with Sigma Winter Claw Extreme Grip --- $872.99/set

Package #2 with Barum Polaris 3 --- $962.69/set

Package #3 with Hankook W409 iPike --- $1029.23/set

Package #4 with Michelin X-Ice Xi3 (NEW) --- $1294.55/set (additional $70 Michelin Mail-in-Rebate available)

Package #5 with Toyo Observe Garit KX --- $1432.16/set (additional $70 Toyo Mail-in-Rebate available)
Package #6 with Hankook W310 Winter iCept evo --- $1140.39/set (additional $50 Hankook Mail-in-Rebate available)



**Just minus $248.55/set from price above if you don’t require steel wheels
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Rudy let me know if you do find anything... I'm still looking too.. Maybe we could score a group discount of some sort

Worst case scenario though is I'm gonna order from Tire Rack - Your performance experts for tires and wheels, you can find a good package on there for under $1500 CAD shipped
I was just looking around for winter tires today for the factory nineteens, I called up Wheels For Less (Wheels for Less Homepage) and was quoted 907$ for the 19 and staggered set up, hope this helps
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