<SFR> SFR ECU Reflash Full Information & Price! - Genesis Forum: GenCoupe Hyundai Genesis Forums

**Jay@SFR** · 06-19-2010, 06:57 AM

Sorry for taking long time for our tune to come out for both 3.8 V6 and 2.0T.
We are just about to finish the final testing for 2.0T but 3.8 V6 reflash is now ready to ROCK!

Since we have not giving out any detailed information but some teaser videos

, let us explain in details what SFR ECU reflash is all about.

::: Tools we are using :::
Some of you may not be faimilar with the way of our tune, but this is very popular and considered as only solution for perfect tune using OEM ECUs in European countries.
This applies the same for any vehicles using European ECUs such as Simens (Continental), Delphi, etc, and most Hyundai/Kia vehicles use these ECUs like our Genesis Coupe.
Our tool can read, write, and overwrite the datas to OEM ECUs which means we can save the OEM data from ECU, then modify and overwrite it.

::: PROs and CONs about our tune :::

PROs

- It allows us to save your ECU data which means we can always turn your ECU back to stock condition or any datas customer want us to reflash

- Since we are modifying your stock data, everything will be perfectly functional ( I know some tunes put the cars in limp modes, Cruise control or Sportshift button do not work and such.. giving you CELs and codes..
None of that will not happen with our tune) while you get much better throttle response, increase in hp/torque, rev limiter raised, Speed limit released, TCU fully functional, etc.. ( We will be getting into comparison when we have the dyno results and videos)

<*This part is quoted from another website*>

-Cost Effective – No need to spend thousands of dollars on a standalone ecu, then pay more for it to be installed – works with the hardware you already own!

-Discreet/invisible modification – There is no way to tell that the factory ecu has been reflashed. This means that your factory warranty will not be effected, and your insurance company isn’t going to worry

-Retain factory driveability – With reflashing, you only alter the aspects of the mapping that require adjustment. This means that the factory cold start, idle control and driveability are retained.

-Retain Factory Safety Features– Reflashing retains all the factory safety features such as knock protection, active knock control and dual octane maps for fuel and ignition timing.

-Improved Fuel Economy – Retains the factory closed-loop air fuel ratio control to provide the sort of economy that most aftermarket ecus can only dream of. Recalibration of target air-fuel ratio can also provide better than stock cruise economy.

-Closed Loop Boost Control (2.0T)– In many situations we can recalibrate the factory boost control system to provide excellent boost control without the need for an expensive standalone boost controller.

-Retain OBD2 Diagnostics – The factory ecu can still be interrogated with typical OBD2 scan tools for full diagnostic output if you have a sensor error resulting in a CEL fault on your dashboard.

-Variable Cam Control – On late model vehicles the cam timing can also be controlled and adjusted. This can provide earlier turbo spool-up as well as improved power and torque.

-Quick Turnaround – Reflashing can be performed inside a day, and we can also do the job while you wait if required.

CONs

- We need to open up your ECU in order us to use reflash tool which is completely harmless to your ECU.
FYI, it will not damage your ECU in any ways and it will look the same and work the same way once it's done.
(We will be posting some videos how to take out the ECU for customers)

- We need to have your stock ECU or we need to have customers to send us calibration data # by OBD2 scanner

We have couple of solutions for that tho.

*If you are sending ECU and have rides *
Run around time would be only 1-4 business days (depends on customer's location).
So if you have other daily driver or can get rides, so as soon as we get the ECU then do the reflash and send out the same day if it's possible or the next day.

*If you are visiting us*
You can come to SFR USA which is located in West Chester, PA 19382, have your ECU reflashed.
I know this only applies for local customers, but we arewilling to travel if there are enough interests.
We should be able to cover most of vehicles but there could be some vehicles that have the calibration datas on our hands, but we can have it modified in half day or have one ECU reflashed and ship it to the customer after we are done with modifications.

*If you are sending ECU but your car is daily driver*
You can go to pep boys or any other stores to have then scan your car.
Then, you can send us your calibration data #. We should be able to reflash an ECU and send it to you then you can send your ECU to us as a core.

::: Warranty :::

- We are going to offer 3 months warranty on ECU.
This means if there is any problem (throwing codes, going into limp mode, anything unfunctional) we will turn the ECU back to OEM data and will issue a full refund.
Every single data will be saved our database along with purchase data/Vin#/Lisence plate #, so we can always look up and turn any ECUs back to stock.

But if we see any damages to the ECU (opened or remodified), it voids our warranty policy.

If customer installs more basic bolt-on hardwares (ex: intake,exhaust,pulley), we will be offering free ECU reflash within 3months as well.
If customer installs more than basic bolt-on hardwares(ex: highcams,F/I inductions,etc) within a year, we will be offering ECU reflash @ discounted price.

::: Now, the price :::

We know a lot of people were assuming our prices or setting the price what it should be and such.
We are very confident about ECU reflash and we certainly feel that our price is more than reasonable.

For 3.8 V6
Price is $600

For 2.0 Turbo
Price is $550

* Note: Prices do not include shipping cost for customer to send their ECUs if they are sending their ECUs*

* From June 25th - July 11th, we will be offering an introductory ECU reflash sale for 3.8 V6 ONLY. Please check this thread :
<SFR> 3.8 V6 ECU Reflash Introductory pricing!

::: Conclusion :::

Thank you very much for a long wait again and we are very confident with the way of our reflash solution and most importantly the RESULT after tune.
We will be adding dyno comparison, 1/4mile record, video clips as soon as we can as.
We are also looking to get feedbacks/reviews from customers who jumps in our intro reflash deals (This is basically why we are throwing this deal)
Once again, thank you for looking and hope this thread gave you a better understanding.

If you have any questions, feel free to PM/Call us or reply to the thread.

Thank you

Jay Kim
VP
SFR International inc.

CoupeDeVille · 06-19-2010, 07:16 AM

. . . .fixed

**Jay@SFR** · 06-19-2010, 07:23 AM

Thank you for pointing that out..
Yes it was typo of course!

Thanks again

hg_5 · 06-19-2010, 07:49 AM

So what would happen if you took the car for warranty work? if the dealer reflashed it or something, would u guys flash it back only within 3 months?

**Jay@SFR** · 06-19-2010, 07:54 AM

I mean.. if your car is not running properly and need to get some programming done @ dealer in a first place..Then, you can send us your ECU.

However, our ECU reflash basically fixes the common problem (rev hang, throttle response)or make it even better than what dealers offer, so there is no point for ever going back there after the reflash

hg_5 · 06-19-2010, 08:05 AM

sounds good i understand that, i was just wondering if dealers mess with the ECU when u take it in for work..like reflashing to latest programming, etc..just wondering..ur price is really reasonable by the way, cant wait to see dyno graphs n time slips

briansol · 06-19-2010, 01:22 PM

dyno's plz

123noob · 06-19-2010, 06:28 PM

Quote:

*If you are sending ECU but your car is daily driver*
You can go to pep boys or any other stores to have then scan your car.
Then, you can send us your calibration data #. We should be able to reflash an ECU and send it to you then you can send your ECU to us as a core.

The reflashed that you're sending will be a temp one until we get our ECU back after sending to u guys and getting reflashed?

itzonlithai · 06-19-2010, 11:03 PM

I'm really interested 1/4 times or dyno #'s for a tuned stage 2 (full TBE, FMIC, injectors, and CAI/SRI)

Edit: The intro price for the 3.8 is ridiculous! Where's the love for us 2.0T drivers

Kamui · 06-21-2010, 06:50 PM

Can't wait to see the dyno results. If they are anything like PA or CMD power gains, I am so going to be investing my money with you guys even more.

cfyella · 06-21-2010, 07:25 PM

Dyno for the 2.0T will be done on weds, so keep on the lookout. Also 2.0T owners will also get a discounted price once the tool has arrived from Korea and when we figure out an event time for that. We will keep you guys updated.

kristin · 06-21-2010, 07:59 PM

this can only run your tunes? or ?

anthonyfa18 · 06-22-2010, 10:13 AM

if your are running no cat on a 2.0t, will your reflash still throw a cel???

Yanier90 · 06-22-2010, 10:34 AM

That's a pretty reasonable price, can't wait to hear the intro discounted price on the 2.0T

**Jay@SFR** · 06-22-2010, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin

this can only run your tunes? or ?

Yes, but we can always modify tunes depends on the mods you have on your car like it's mentioned on detail thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonyfa18

if your are running no cat on a 2.0t, will your reflash still throw a cel???

Yes.. it will act the same way as stock ECU for emissions and all other functions..
Just think it as way better software for your ECU
We still have control of turning off the O2 snesors and such but we won't do that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanier90

That's a pretty reasonable price, can't wait to hear the intro discounted price on the 2.0T

Thank you.. please wait for announcement beginning of July

Thanks!

Miami Beast · 06-22-2010, 10:52 AM

ok so the tease video shows rev limit 7800!, only thing missing to fully complete the post is exactly what that tune does to what parts, im jw if it raises the rev limiter , or if that's just for 3.8 manual?

**Jay@SFR** · 06-22-2010, 11:14 AM

We can set the rev limiter @ any RPM..
Note with stock ECU you will get a cut @ 4-5k , and we just wanted to show people that we have a complete control over the ECU.

Recommended Rev limit is 7200rpm so that's what we will be setting the rev limiter @ and we can set it lower RPM by requests.

Advatages are

Gain HP/ overall Torque
Great throttle response
Top speed limiter taken out
Higher rev limit
Fix the rev hang problem
TCS fully off
Better gas mileage while cruising

while everything acts and works just like stock ECU.

Please do some search you will get plenty of results
Also stay tuned for our customers' feedbacks after we throw special intros in few days.
We will leave it all upto customers' reviews and feedbacks

anthonyfa18 · 06-22-2010, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay@SFR

Yes.. it will act the same way as stock ECU for emissions and all other functions..
Just think it as way better software for your ECU
We still have control of turning off the O2 snesors and such but we won't do that

i want to run a cat-less downpipe but i don't want cel that is why i am asking with your reflash i will remove it.

Miami Beast · 06-22-2010, 11:26 AM

will daily drive shift at 7200rpm or is this only when full throttle, how about paddle shift mode?

**Jay@SFR** · 06-22-2010, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonyfa18

i want to run a cat-less downpipe but i don't want cel that is why i am asking with your reflash i will remove it.

There are many other alternative modes to remove CEL for straight pipes like spacers/ o2 sensor defouler if you are just looking to remove CEL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miami Beast

will daily drive shift at 7200rpm or is this only when full throttle, how about paddle shift mode?

Of course it's only when full throttle lol

Also we did mention that we can't change the shifting point for auto trannies since ECU but TCU controls that.
You can still rev upto 7200rpm when you are neutral or at the final gear

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