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Hooking up your BOV to use the stock solenoid

Okay so I ordered the Weirtech intercooler piping with the synapse BOV. I was having issues with the BOV.

If i was in neutral revving my car i could hear my BOV venting the air but the moment i started driving and under any amount of load the air would VENT out of the Intake (compression surge?). I had my BOV hooked upto the intake manifold line and had the stock solenoid capped off. The setup was fine as checked by a couple of people. The problem persisted though so this is how i found the solution...

I went to Canadian Tire and bought extra rubber hose incase i needed it. What I did was I connected the Intake manifold line to one end of the STOCK solenoid ( the one that goes into the intercooler pipe) then i took another length of rubber hose and connected that from the other connection (the one the stock BOV is connected to) and took that and connected it to PORT A ONLY.

Then i went for a run. Car was already nice and warm since i had tried bunch of other methods before hand. Car boosted fine. Held High boost fine and vented thru the BOV!! (FINALLY!!)

I came back and connected the line going to THE BOV to both PORT A AND PORT B.. I started having issues (venting thru intake)... and i tried whole bunch of methods none of them worked this is the only one that works for me...

Ill post pics. My only concern is that is this a safe method? Can I screw anything up?? I'm a total car noob everything i've learnt about cars has been from this forum.

BELOW IS BASICALLY A HOW TO:

Ok so here you go!...

RED is INTAKE MANIFOLD
BLUE is TO BOV PORT A

I hope the pictures help!! To me it looks simple because i did it myself but i know how it could look confusing to others i tried my best with paint. Let me know if you guys need further clarification! Late for hockey now!


This is the picture thats the easiest to see wth is going on! Remember RED and BLUE!



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Intake manifold/BOV pic:



And finally.. Solenoid pic... REMEBER RED and BLUE!:

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I don't understand why people use the stock BOV solenoid with the aftermarket BOVs.

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I don't understand why people use the stock BOV solenoid with the aftermarket BOVs.
In the case of the Synapse, it was designed to work with the stock BPV Solenoid. In fact, Synapse highly recommends that you use the stock BPV solenoid because you are going to get the fastest response from it than you would using just a vacuum source.

With that said, when I installed my Synapse, I discovered that my BPV solenoid valve wasn't working. I ordered a new one on EBay for about $35.00 and haven't had a problem since.

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Yes I guess it's my fault for reading all the "My BOV is fluttering" or "Where should I hook up the BOV" threads.

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I don't understand how it can act faster on a restricted flow solenoid compared to 1/4" hose straight off the intake.

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to be fair, some people are just f*cking stupid. I don't see why some people have difficulties with a lot of things, remove old part, put new part in old parts spot, done. Some people just don't get that, they seem intent that things have to be more difficult than what they really are.
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I don't understand how it can act faster on a restricted flow solenoid compared to 1/4" hose straight off the intake.
The solenoid has access to a tank of vacuum, the intake manifold actually has to develop vacuum before the valve starts to move, where as the solenoid can use the stored vacuum in the tank to open the valve the instant the DBW system receives the signal to close the throttle plate.
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btw OP, yes we've gone off topic, no our comments are not directed at you.
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Yeah its okay but like i said i tried the "normal" way but for reasons unknown to me that was venting 80% thru intake and 20% thru BOV. I tried other methods. I think i probably tried like 5-6 different combinations... Like i said people who saw my setup said it SHOULD work but it didnt! Anyways yeah i never planned on using yhe stock solenoid in the first place


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Port b is the fastest port FYI


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So we really need a bigger solenoid and plumbing?

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Solenoid and plumbing work fine as long as it's working. Provided the BPV solenoid valve is working properly.

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Solenoid and plumbing work fine as long as it's working.

That wasn't my experience with my Tial. Haven't used it since.

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I can't answer for Tial... but for the OP's Synapse, it works perfectly with the stock solenoid and plumbing.

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You can actually ream your OE solenoid and gain about 10-15% more flow from it if you've got the patience Red. You could also replace the solenoid with GrimmSpeeds EBC unit since it'd direct plug and play and just tune to compensate for it. You use CMD anyways right?
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After driving with my synapse for a month on the solenoid and far longer off the manifold...I will never go back to solenoid. It would pop the BOV at about 17 psi for no reason at all (Yes I was well above oil temp, and normally I run about 22/23 psi with my mods...got lucky with a monster from the factory I guess?) and sometimes would even pop it off while accelerating and then close and pop off etc...very annoying.

I also hit overboost limp mode 4 times while on stock solenoid due to the bov not releasing quickly after I let off the throttle after a hard acceleration...like it couldn't open the synapse fast enough or something. Ever since I switched to the manifold I've had zero problems.

I have mine hooked up with only the B tab...synapse confirmed in an email to me that you can hook up A and B but B is what they recommended for fastest release with my setup (Off the manifold). Tho they mentioned that they recommend that for the solenoid setup too.

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Mine isnt just off the solenoid i have the intake manifold line going to the stock solenoid! It doesnt vent at any boost until i let off the gas. I'll hook it up to port B and see if its better or worse


Looks at my "while testing" picture its pretty easy to follow the lines in that pic and see wth im doing

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Does the solenoid not already feed off the manifolds vaccuum?

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It does but when i tried to hook it up just the solenoid the BOV didnt work properly. I guess hooking up the other line gives it that extra "vaccum" idk wth it does im not a expert all i know it works this way


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