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Buying a vertical Mill and a lathe that comes with a 3&4 chuck and tig and mig welder for my garage so I can fab my on parts (wife is pissed,oh well).With all of these machining items I will get the traction sorted out very well and any other fabbed items I need I can now make myself at home .

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There is a automatic level 10 tranny /turbo 3.8 V6 running [email protected] 126 mph in 1/4 now .Go to Dragtimes.com web Site ,nice car.

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I personally would go with ARK all the way from front to back (the GRIP) with an x pipe added. Their muffler is truly hard to beat. I had this setup before I went turbo and it ran quite well. You really need the muffler for proper back pressure. Make sure to order the headers with ceramic coating (or get them ceramic coated upon receipt, not powder coated). Then wrap them with titanium heat wrap, and dont skimp on this. Do not use the aluminum crank pulley, leave that stock. Are you talking about the phenolic spacer (helps with cooling) or manifold riser (adds mid range torque)? You may have space issues with both. To add the "power" or in this case torque, you want the riser.

You can shed additional weight by going with a DSS carbon fiber driveshaft although it might be a pricey investment for what you are doing.

For cooling, the VIS carbon fiber hood has great vented cutouts and will assist in cooling the engine bay. along with the titanium wrapping. You can get a mishimoto oil cooler to keep the engine oil cooler. I would also get a Koyorad aluminum racing radiator.

I have the 8AT so I am not the one to ask about the clutch. I do know a quality performance complete clutch setup will not be cheap. Shorttrack can probably give best guidance here.

As shorttrack has done, I have done so many mods on my car I have trouble remembering everything off the top of my head. He is well built 3.8 on NOS with MT, I am a well built boosted 3.8 8AT. Neither of our cars, however, are our dailys...
Ok thats a lot of good info. thanks! I already have the CNT test pipes from a while back, you think it makes that much of a difference? How are ISR exhausts? I'm not tryna sound cheap, but if i can save money while maintaining quality i will do that.

I think i will go with the cooling side of things as you said. i was thinking of the getting a new radiator, but the info on the vents and oil cooling was good to know.

what is wrong with using a aluminium crank pulley?

I did not get ceramic coating for the headers so i will have to do that. this may be a dumb question, but why is should you ceramic coat it and heat wrap it? do it overheat too much?

Yes i was talking about a manifold riser, for the mid range torque. I hope I wont have space issues, but i did remove the engine cover so i hope that helps with space.

Also debated on Meth Injection eventually, any opinions on it?
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Ok thats a lot of good info. thanks! I already have the CNT test pipes from a while back, you think it makes that much of a difference? How are ISR exhausts? I'm not tryna sound cheap, but if i can save money while maintaining quality i will do that.

I think i will go with the cooling side of things as you said. i was thinking of the getting a new radiator, but the info on the vents and oil cooling was good to know.

what is wrong with using a aluminium crank pulley?

I did not get ceramic coating for the headers so i will have to do that. this may be a dumb question, but why is should you ceramic coat it and heat wrap it? do it overheat too much?

Yes i was talking about a manifold riser, for the mid range torque. I hope I wont have space issues, but i did remove the engine cover so i hope that helps with space.

Also debated on Meth Injection eventually, any opinions on it?
Not a fan of ISR race exhaust. Its more of a sound thing than actual performance IMO. The ARK truly is made for performance and the sound is quite nice without being obnoxious.

You can go with meth injection. I would also add a throttle body spacer and the thermal throttle body gasket.

You run the risk of throwing off the balance of the motor when using the aluminum pulley on the crank. The potential negatives far outweigh the benefits.

The coating and the wrapping help control the heat. The heat is your engine's enemy.

With the riser, you will need to take the cover off. I dont think you will have any space issues with just he riser. You may run into space issue if you add the phenolic spacer AND the riser.

Probably not a big issue with the CNT test pipes. Not sure of the construction, size. I cannot comment how the fitment will be.

For your intake, I would go with a true cold air intake although you would have to be careful of the intake of water. You would have to have one custom made or I believe 3point8 performance may sell one.

You can also remove your fog lights and replace with Enthuspec brake cooling ducts (it will aid in cool air if you go with a true cold air intake as well as venting out the hot air from the engine bay, especially if you go with the vented VIS hood.
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Not a fan of ISR race exhaust. Its more of a sound thing than actual performance IMO. The ARK truly is made for performance and the sound is quite nice without being obnoxious.

You can go with meth injection. I would also add a throttle body spacer and the thermal throttle body gasket.

You run the risk of throwing off the balance of the motor when using the aluminum pulley on the crank. The potential negatives far outweigh the benefits.

The coating and the wrapping help control the heat. The heat is your engine's enemy.

With the riser, you will need to take the cover off. I dont think you will have any space issues with just he riser. You may run into space issue if you add the phenolic spacer AND the riser.

Probably not a big issue with the CNT test pipes. Not sure of the construction, size. I cannot comment how the fitment will be.

For your intake, I would go with a true cold air intake although you would have to be careful of the intake of water. You would have to have one custom made or I believe 3point8 performance may sell one.

You can also remove your fog lights and replace with Enthuspec brake cooling ducts (it will aid in cool air if you go with a true cold air intake as well as venting out the hot air from the engine bay, especially if you go with the vented VIS hood.
Ok i see what you mean about performance. I guess i will have to see which one i really want a do a little research.

Yeah i plan on adding a throttle body spacer with the thermal throttle body gasket.

OK i guess i will look into the imbalance and decide from there.

yeah i saw that when i was looking to order the manifold spacer. i think you can get one of theirs with the manifold spacer anyway.

the cnt test pipes bolt directly on the oem so i dont see the issue.

yeah i have injen short ram right now, 3point8perfamnce has one you can pre order but not in stock yet. whats the downside of a short ram that would require me to switch over?

yeah i saw those vents, may consider getting them in the near future because they look pretty cool too, not to mention the functionality.
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... still it is my $38,000 home built Gen Coupe again'st a $60,000 plus Mustang and a $70,000 plus camaro ...
Dude... Time, tools, & materials; you've probly got 250K in her. if not more.
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I forgot to add, install dual catch cans (make sure they are baffled).
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Dude... Time, tools, & materials; you've probly got 250K in her. if not more.
Planning on retiring soon,buying the mill and lathe plus welding equipment to do other projects such as building custom high end firearms .Am a Turbine/rotating equipment mechanic by trade so I have about $ 80,000 in tools already (all kept in pretty good condition),These tools/tool boxes I have,I have been able to bring home as my company has went to a ISO standard ,meaning the company supplies all of the shop tooling now .Always worked on race cars and motorcycles for the past 30 plus years so I have a $hit load of automotive tools as well . In short,I don't count my skill/time or tool tab to my GC because I've had the tooling and skill set way longer than I've had my Gen Coupe.It does make it easy though to think of a mod and implement it in my garage when I want .
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I forgot to add, install dual catch cans (make sure they are baffled).
I am using 2 baffled catch cans inline on the PCV side and a stainless steel vent filter on the non PCV side. .

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