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Ok I want to know why it is so one sided on here? I have put parts up for sale here before because I only wanted to sell local. So I put a grille up about 6 months ago.. then it gets locked because of no pics.. so then I put up springs for sale with pics and it geta locked because its not put in the classifieds... so last week I posted my hood exhaust diffuser headlight tail light bumper in the classifieds and then it doesnt get posted because it is waiting approval from the classified mods... MODS or wildbill.. WHY DO YOU KEEP LOCKING threads???!! This is supposed to be a community of genesis that love their cars and want to help others not a place to be controlled! I guarantee these moderators are NOT even as much as enthusiasts about the genesis than most these guys here. Thats why there is a facebook page called North Texas Genesis coupe. We are not about all these rules here.. all im asking is to calm down on the locking and let us have a Texas thread where we can actually post things! Im sure this will get locked as well which will prove my point even more about this locking becoming out of control. . And yes Wildbill im calling you out!
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FYI dude your not going to be here much lonoger if you keep acting like this. There are rules and regulations you have to go by that are listed on this site. MODS can and will for whatever reason lock your thread if all the standards are met. FS threads also have to go through a approval process. So stop calling people out. or you will just get banned, then you have another problem...

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O and by the way im pretty sure WildBill is on the North Texas Club thing! and let me tell you he is an enthusiast hes the one that set-ups meet tuning events all kinds of $hit!! he probably the reason we have that club! And let me tell you if anyone loves his gGen its Bill hes put over 1200000 miles on that thing!

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Well said Leesgen.

To OP: Not as much as of an entusiast? Seriously? You do realize that just about every single Moderator on the forums has been here longer, posted more, helped more people, modified their car more, and spent more time making the forums a better place than you?

You do realize that we Mods spend our own free time cleaning up crap threads, keeping people from getting too far out of line, and doing whatever we can to help people out, for free? It's not like we get paid... We do it because we like the GC community and want to see it grow!

Just because you can't follow some simple rules you decide to throw a fit? If you don't like the F/S rules then post on eBay or Craigs list. The rules are in place to PROTECT buyers from shady sellers. That's not to say that you're a shady seller but there have been more than a few on here that have ripped people off.




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Well said..... Close thread!!

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Good to know!

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Not as much of enthusiasts?? You should look at the build threads going around. Sj, kamkaze, mine, and see what crooked has done over the last few years as well. Just follow the rules and you won't have problems.


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Good to know!
That was posted by WildBill of im not mistaken

Imagine that......

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Its people like you that throw up a fit when they get ripped off by shady sellers. Seems to me you can't follow simple classified rules bud.

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Throwing a fit? All im saying is if we have to fillow rules so should the mods.. oh wait I forgot all the mods on here can do whatever the hell they want
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Im specifically talking to wildbill not any other mods
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Throwing a fit? All im saying is if we have to fillow rules so should the mods.. oh wait I forgot all the mods on here can do whatever the hell they want
Dude honestly you are being rediculous. like CrokkedH said they are here to help YOU out, they dont get paid, they volunteer. Imagine what this forum would be like without rules!?!?! there would be new stupid threads everyhwere, you would never be able to find what you want, people would be getting ripped off left right and center because sketchy people will pop up everywhere. i am also sure there are strict rules that have to be followed by the MODS to.

Bottom line is the MODS arent going anywhere, i am greatful for what they do and how they help us out as i am sure the other 99% of the community will agree. GET USED TO IT OR GTFO. Simple really.

Edit: i have met Bill personally and he is a great guy! he does exactly what he should do on this forum!

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Ok man facebook groups for example have NO rules and there is no chaos. You guys act like if the rules arent followed my strict orders that the world will blow up. No point in arguing on here, I know I speak for a TON of genesis owners about this. Unsubscribed. Have fun
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Not sure why "a TON" of GC owners aren't defending you then.

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Im specifically talking to wildbill not any other mods
Did you realize that WildBill actually mentioned not liking having to do that stuff and wanted to change the rules a bit, in the moderator section of the forums? He's a good guy and if any of the mods are for the better of the community, it's WildBill. He's organized or help organize more GC events than the majority of the people on this site.

What rules do you think he doesn't follow?

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Ok man facebook groups for example have NO rules and there is no chaos. You guys act like if the rules arent followed my strict orders that the world will blow up. No point in arguing on here, I know I speak for a TON of genesis owners about this. Unsubscribed. Have fun
Do those facebook groups have 30K+ members and over 1 million posts?

The rules you're complaining about are simply there to help make sure nobody gets ripped off. If you're against rules that protect the community, perhaps you're the one who's not actually for bettering the community and simply want to make your own life easier. Sense of entitlement much?




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Also, have you noticed the biggest hyundai genesis coupe facebook group is losing a lot of members? For one reason, because of obvious trolls and douchebags? That's what we are here for besides the normal rule enforcing. Hop off that high horse and follow the rules and you'll be fine.

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For what it is worth:

As previously discussed with you via PM, the Mods, myself included, are simply following and enforcing the rules that have been, over time, created and implemented by the admin and ownership of this forum. They have specifically told us No FS/WTB threads outside of the classifieds or the Vendor's specific subsections.

While these rules, or ones very similar, have been in place for a long time (even before the forum was bought a few years back), it was always rules that were loosely enforced. That is a mistake on the current and previous Mods and we readily accept that. But, given the number of us on at any given time and the number of members on and sheer volume of content passing through, it is very hard if not impossible to catch everything. That is why we have tools in place to allow users to help us to help them.

That being said, several months back the ownership spoke with the Mods about the situation and that they wanted to begin being more proactive on rules enforcement because at that time, the forum was starting to have a lot of clusters pop up on a regular bases, sales/buys included, that were giving the forum a bad name and reputation as well as causing a lot of headache on the backend and management of those systems. The current Mods (myself just being accepted in at that time) understood the request and agreed to do better in that regard. We of course voiced our opinion on the matter and, also, at that time brought up the current rules and needed changes to those rules to allow for better function and use of the forum due to the dramatic increase in size that had occured over time that was one of the key causes to drive such change.

So, after a long debate and a few conference phone calls, we hammered out the new rules that were more evolution than revolution of the old ones that had always been in place and are, for the most part, standard across most forums. Once all were in agreement and the ownership was happy with the proposed changes, we put them into place and began to be more religious in checking various forum locations for things that broke the rules, moderating as needed, and then informing the member of the changes and why they had occurred so that they could understand and, hopefully, follow the correct processes later on.

Well, as with any changes and or renewed vigor in enforcement on current rules after a long period of a more loose approach, some members found that they did not like the changes. We, again, explained to them the reasoning (i.e. ownership among other things) and why we were now being more picky about the situation to them. Some understood and took it in stride to which we haven't heard from them since; some didn't like the changes and posted as such within the allocated forum feedback section that is routinely checked by the admin and mods; and others either did not like the changes or chose not to deal with the changes and moved on to other outlets (other forums, facebook, etc.). We understood this and dealt with any major incidences as best we could given each situation.

With regards to your concerns, yes, whenever I browse areas or receive reports from other users about sales thread in the wrong place, the Mods will typically move them out of courteousy and sometimes PM the OP what occured (I usually just left an expiring link from the original section where it was incorrectly posted that would last a month). Again, though, we can only see so much of the forum at any given time and heavily rely on our members to help point us to things in question. I admit that I was on and off the forum at various and random levels of activity. Sometimes I would be in the Texas subsection everyday for a week straight other times I would not hit it save for subed threads for a month or more. When I do go in, I always quickly scan the first page of threads for anything that doesn't fit the rules and take care of it as needed. If this meant it appeared I was picking on your and your threads, that was not the intention, I just noticed yours during and sweep, usually among a few others I also moderated, and it was addressed per the rules and guidelines we are to follow.

With this new enforcement, we have found new issues and concerns that were brought up that we in turn spoke with the admin about. This brought about additional modifications to the rules, such as now FS/WTB threads needing approval before they go live, again to further allow us to avoid the clutter that develops with duplicate or incorrect FS/WTB threads that did not follow the rules. The result? A classified section that is streamlined and easy to search/browse that is much easier to manager and keep clean and on point. Yes, there is a learning curve and changes that have to be adjusted to by both the Mods and the members. But, in the end it will be beneficial across the board.

I'm sorry if you feel like this is the Mods, or more specifically myself, attacking you. Again, that is not the intention. If you ever feel this is the case, by all means, PM the admin and voice your concerns with him. He will look into it and let us know if we are doing something incorrectly and we will adjust accordingly. Either way, best of luck to you and with your sales. If you would like to discuss anything else, feel free to post or PM me and I will be more than happy to answer them to the best of my ability.

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Throwing a fit? All im saying is if we have to fillow rules so should the mods.. oh wait I forgot all the mods on here can do whatever the hell they want
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Im specifically talking to wildbill not any other mods
I would ask what rules did I not follow that I was enforcing on others?

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