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Simply put, there's too many 'kids' here. It's a cheap car, kids can afford it, and the mentatlity is at a junk level with it.

You will never find this stuff on 911/nsx/gtr/etc etc forums.
I agree 100%. There's no moderation going on to put them in line either. Like I said, kids (or immature adults) + money = good business for the forum/vendors. Nothing is going to change.

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I bought into the admins "well protect our members" line at first but after RRM is still a vendor and none of the info to warn others of the nspp was stickied, I fully believe it's all about the benjamins....

It's blatently obvious they lied and ripped people off yet no recourse for them...




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+1 for 40+ only members

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I agree 100%. There's no moderation going on to put them in line either. Like I said, kids (or immature adults) + money = good business for the forum/vendors. Nothing is going to change.
that would make yellowgc a kid, ohhh how ironic

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+1 for 30+ only members
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Maybe we need our own "old bastards corner" or something...

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I've already decided to keep any "new content" I have to post on the other forums,.
This. Right here.

I love to actually talk about cars. Not one line responses, but thoughtful insights into the cars, the people, the business, the industry. And that's simply not possible here. I save it for other forums, because I know there I'll get debate rather than fan-boy bullsh1t.

But I want more than "that car sux": if you don't like something, explain why in real terms. If you want more power, give reasons beyond "OMG ITs SLOWZ".

Ok, not gonna rant, but yeah. It's nearly impossible to get any kind of thoughtful discussion going here, where it is elsewhere. This site is good for a few social/regional threads (and that'll change as more regional forums pop up) and when you're actively looking to buy something. If you actually want to talk and debate? totally useless.

It could be good here, most of the people are capable of the above. there's just no incentive to do so due to the actions of a [growing] minority who appear to want to make it their personal pissing ground.

And moderation is, as people keep saying, probably a large part of that.
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The number of mods commenting in this thread say it all imo.

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Do any of you that are complaining have kids? If so, why not just tune out the bad apples like you do with your kids when they are annoying you?

I admit that sometimes I have to step in and include my .02, but most of the time, I simply shake my head and refuse to add to a comment that would only spark a childish back and forth.

Oh... There goes my .02 again except this time, there seems to be no recent childish remarks...........

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Do any of you that are complaining have kids? If so, why not just tune out the bad apples like you do with your kids when they are annoying you?

I admit that sometimes I have to step in and include my .02, but most of the time, I simply shake my head and refuse to add to a comment that would only spark a childish back and forth.

Oh... There goes my .02 again except this time, there seems to be no recent childish remarks...........
My ignore list is growing, but that doesn't help the inherent problem with the forum. The easy thing to do is to ignore them all we want and refuse to comment. But then the forum just fills with immature people posting trash. As the forum fills with trash, there's even less of an incentive for the mature people to post.

The cycle repeats. The problem compounds itself. The forum decays further.

It's like having children. Yes you can ignore them. But by ignoring them, you are condoning their actions. There is no reason for them to stop misbehaving.

The problems with this forum can only be remedied by effective moderation. That's not happening here. I've only heard of a few bannings on this forum and they've only been because of (justifiable imo) vendor bashing. I think this clearly shows what the priorities of this forum are. It's all about the money.

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I say there should be a report option for threads/post. Mods might not do anything but when they want to they at least have the problem areas right in front of them.
Hey, great idea... let's get this one rolling... We could use a yield sign and put it in the lower left of each post under the posters avata.... oh wait a minute... I've been telling everyone who complains that this already exists...
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The number of mods commenting in this thread say it all imo.
That's because my personal opinion on the matter is that the biggest problem with this forum is the group of elitist morons who think they have a clue and make up stupid conspiracy theories and bullshit each other about it to make themselves feel like they have a bigger penis...





Who, by the way, most of have absolutely not a single inkling of a clue as to what is going on and would rather have a web site that takes care of them like mommy used to.
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How would one go about deleting an account on this site? I've searched through the profile and user cp section but can't find any options...




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So are you formally admitting by your title that you make up BS and spread it as fact and that you do this to make your manhood feel bigger?


Calling a bluff is also, always an option.
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So are you formally admitting by your title that you make up BS and spread it as fact and that you do this to make your manhood feel bigger?


Calling a bluff is also, always an option.
Neither.... But thanks for reinforcing my thoughts on where this site has gone. I'll take care of disabling as much of my account as I can. Thanks for the help. This will be my last post on here. I'm sure I'll see some of you guys at the CCM meet in the coming weeks but for those of you that I've chatted with and learned from, thanks, been nice knowing ya.



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I think this thread has explained itself.

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So, where's the exodus this time?

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I blame G20.

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Who, by the way, most of have absolutely not a single inkling of a clue as to what is going on and would rather have a web site that takes care of them like mommy used to.
Yup, don't tell people whats going on, just respond with insults in a thread created because of just such post.

Elitist morons?
Bigger pensis?
Conspiracy theories?
Bullshit each other?

Ya know, i've never sent you a pm nor ever spoke your name so not sure whats up with your post/rant.

Plus this thread was created by people concerned about the forum, not people creating Conspiracy theories... Closest theory i spoke of was the lack of response saying the mods don't care.From your response it doesn't look to be a theory at all.

Noting like letting people rant for 5 pages and blowing up on everyone for not having 'a single inkling of a clue'. Apparently you are 100% right.., i am completely clueless as to wtf your talkin about.

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Yup, don't tell people whats going on, just respond with insults in a thread created because of just such post.

Elitist morons?
Bigger pensis?
Conspiracy theories?
Bullshit each other?

Ya know, i've never sent you a pm nor ever spoke your name so not sure whats up with your post/rant.

Plus this thread was created by people concerned about the forum, not people creating Conspiracy theories... Closest theory i spoke of was the lack of response saying the mods don't care.From your response it doesn't look to be a theory at all.

Noting like letting people rant for 5 pages and blowing up on everyone for not having 'a single inkling of a clue'. Apparently you are 100% right.., i am completely clueless as to wtf your talkin about.
We've been "telling people what's going on" for a very long time. Personally I am sick of seeing people come in here and post about how horrible things are and how we're some secretive group of people hiding the truth of how we're all getting paid and protecting vendors, blah blah blah


This is always followed up by posts about how we don't ever do anything to moderate the forums.


Does it ever occur to people that maybe they don't know what we are doing because you never notice what we DO moderate? Try reporting a post for once instead of accusing us of not doing anything about it when you would. Typically, by the time I get the email about a reported post it has been taken care of already, that is how fast things get done around here when the user base acts like adults instead of expecting us to be 24x7 mommy support.



Yeah, my post was mean. I meant it to be because I am sick and tired of the B.S. If we ran this site like some of you seem to think we should, most of the complainers would have been banned a long time ago because someone complained about them.

Do you realize that I have been telling people to use the report post button for more than a year? There are maybe 20 people on this site who actually make use of it. If those 20 people aren't catching every single thread that you think needs to be moderated, how do you expect 5 moderators to catch them all?


Have you even thought about how many new posts there are in a day here? Do YOU read every single post? Do you spend 24 hours a day reading the forums or do you have a job that you have responsibilities for? Do you think that the moderators DON'T?



And yes, this thread was created by people who were concerned for the forum, months ago, and months ago people were talking about the attitude of the members. I came in here after people decided that this could be one more thread to make up B.S. stories about "how the site is run", and "how we are protecting the vendors".



You want the truth?


I can't stand IS, Not since day 1. He has been a thorn in my side since the day he became a vendor. Mr.K and I had very long conversations about him and his bad attitude and we were quite surprised when, even after posting up acting like an ass hat people kept sending him money. People would post about how he was an ass hat, then they would give him money, then post again about how he is an ass hat. I have wondered to myself many times how he can stay in business with such a piss poor business attitude toward his customers.


Why is he still a vendor? Because he has not broken any rules. because to my knowledge, no one has provided any evidence that he had defrauded, ripped off, lied, misled, etc...

He is only guilty of being an ass hat and having some poor business ideals.

As for RRM, when was the last time you saw RRM around here? I can;t remember the last time I saw an RRM banner.

Has anyone even bothered to look at our sponsors to see if they are still here??


Here is a protip;

Before you open your mouth and start making accusations, you MIGHT want to make sure you know what you are talking about.


If this offends you, so be it. If it means reducing the amount of ignorant conspiracy theory bullshit around here, I am fine with it.
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Welp, i never knew about the report feature and mods never told me nor did i see any post anywhere about it so i'm not offended there. Your repeating yourself doesn't make me guilty sorry.

Never bought anything from IS so not offended there nor care to make up lies about mods in regards to them.Most of it looked to be mob mentality anyway.

I've never cared to look at sponsors after the RRM nonsense because they never showed presence on the board anyways. If they did, would be another story. I think people's bitching about that is the lack of sticky threads warning people not to get their products.

I've seen threads deleted and users getting banned left and right so i know mods 'exist'. Unfortunately if everything the mods do involve deleting or editing post, not very many people are going to see it. Whats left over gets highlighted and blown up the more sensitive people are which sadly looks to be most of the community.

Threat of force made public is usually better off than exercising that force behind the scenes.

Thats my 2 cents that i'm sure somehow pokes at one of your already swollen buttons. I would wait for the anger issues to subside but from the content in your post i'm not sure it will

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I don't know why. But seeing FleshBox so pissed is a bit relieving. Al ot of proof there there that the Mod's do care.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with the forum. The car receives attention from a younger crowd 18 - 30. With a small portion outside those boundaries. It's just human nature for the attitudes and such to be as they are.

Just my worthless opinion.

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