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Next Gen GC...DCT?

We all know the thread about the next GC on here. Just a bit more but the '16 Veloster is getting a DCT. Please Hyundai give is a KILLER GC with 430hp, the bang for the buck with tech like you already do with a DCT for $40k!
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We all know the thread about the next GC on here. Just a bit more but the '16 Veloster is getting a DCT. Please Hyundai give is a KILLER GC with 430hp, the bang for the buck with tech like you already do with a DCT for $40k!
If it's going to be as bad as the DTC on the Veloster, no thanks.
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Veloster DCT is a piece of ****. The newer 7 speed in the Sonata Eco model is better, but still not particularly smooth or quiet. And have fun paying for repairs out of warranty. A Mitsubishi EVO DCT is a good one, but it is $12,000 for a replacement. That's right, $12k. And they usually last until they are JUST out of warranty.
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Veloster DCT is a piece of ****. The newer 7 speed in the Sonata Eco model is better, but still not particularly smooth or quiet. And have fun paying for repairs out of warranty. A Mitsubishi EVO DCT is a good one, but it is $12,000 for a replacement. That's right, $12k. And they usually last until they are JUST out of warranty.
Veloster DCT and the Sonata DCT are the same clutch....
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Veloster DCT is a piece of ****. The newer 7 speed in the Sonata Eco model is better, but still not particularly smooth or quiet. And have fun paying for repairs out of warranty. A Mitsubishi EVO DCT is a good one, but it is $12,000 for a replacement. That's right, $12k. And they usually last until they are JUST out of warranty.
Veloster DCT and the Sonata DCT are the same clutch....
Incorrect. Veloster is a 6 speed dct, sonata eco has an all new 7 speed dct.
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Incorrect. Veloster is a 6 speed dct, sonata eco has an all new 7 speed dct.
I am referring to the new DCT in the turbo model. The NA model is nonexistent to me, sorry for the confusion.
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And I only was referring to the new turbo's DCT because the op was. It's actually a very capable clutch and holds up very well. The NA one you're referring to @wars86 is indeed a pile of $#!t.
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I am referring to the new DCT in the turbo model. The NA model is nonexistent to me, sorry for the confusion.
The 2015 Turbo still has a 6-speed DCT.

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The 2015 Turbo still has a 6-speed DCT.

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No it doesn't. Only the naturally aspirated engine is the only one with a DCT(a dry one at that). The turbo model has a 6 speed transmission with torque converter. The new turbo model (2016) will get the DCT for the first time. Look under the options lower on the page you sent me, click on turbo model and you'll see "automatic" not DCT as listed under the naturally aspirated version, vastly different transmissions.
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I'm just saying if they can throw a DCT in the Veloster, a bit of tweeking, why not in a new GC?
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I'm just saying if they can throw a DCT in the Veloster, a bit of tweeking, why not in a new GC?
Making a DCT transmission that handles 150ft-lb of torque, and one that handles 300/350+, is a very different story.

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Making a DCT transmission that handles 150ft-lb of torque, and one that handles 300/350+, is a very different story.
They'll never do it with a dry DCT. If they make a wet DCT, which eventually they will, then yes it'll be awesome. DCT technology is getting better every year, I used to design clutches for DCTs, but have since moved departments and no longer see them, but they are truly fantastic when done properly.
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Well if Hyundai is really serious about being a competitor with the big boys from Germany, a functioning DCT is a must IMO.
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They'll never do it with a dry DCT. If they make a wet DCT, which eventually they will, then yes it'll be awesome. DCT technology is getting better every year, I used to design clutches for DCTs, but have since moved departments and no longer see them, but they are truly fantastic when done properly.
Right, but that's when the costs rises dramatically. For cars under $40,000, give maybe 2 to 3 years. Good DCTs have barely started moving into high-performance sedans/coupes (C63, Mx).

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Well if it is worthy, I'm willing to pay about $50k for 390WHP, that's wheel, awesome interior (Hyundai you set the bar here, it's why I sold my Z-with tech), and DCT. Fight nissan and put me in a GC again.
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Well if it is worthy, I'm willing to pay about $50k for 390WHP, that's wheel, awesome interior (Hyundai you set the bar here, it's why I sold my Z-with tech), and DCT. Fight nissan and put me in a GC again.
Hyundai will price the GC out of its market if they go up to 50K. People are already having a hard time paying 55K for a 5.0 Genesis Sedan.

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Hyundai will price the GC out of its market if they go up to 50K. People are already having a hard time paying 55K for a 5.0 Genesis Sedan.
You might be right but imagine a GC with over 430BHP, DCT and an interior like the GC Sedan for $50k.

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You might be right but imagine a GC with over 430BHP, DCT and an interior like the GC Sedan for $50k.
I couldn't even imagine affording it, lol.

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Veloster DCT is a piece of ****. The newer 7 speed in the Sonata Eco model is better, but still not particularly smooth or quiet. And have fun paying for repairs out of warranty. A Mitsubishi EVO DCT is a good one, but it is $12,000 for a replacement. That's right, $12k. And they usually last until they are JUST out of warranty.
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