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I would get the Veloster Turbo with the matte paint.
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Great mpg and looks (imo) as long as they dont go crazy with the price I plan to be rocking one next year or so.
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Great mpg and looks (imo) as long as they dont go crazy with the price I plan to be rocking one next year or so.
Some food for thought

Hyundai adds more spunk to Veloster Turbo with graphics package


I kinda like it....I'm usually not a fan of graphics and tacky crap...but this package on this car...It somehow works.
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Some food for thought

Hyundai adds more spunk to Veloster Turbo with graphics package


I kinda like it....I'm usually not a fan of graphics and tacky crap...but this package on this car...It somehow works.
Yeah, I think the graphics on the Veloster work with the design very well. I'm definitely impressed with what Hyundai has done with Veloster in such a short period of time. That grill on the turbo veloster is menacing.

It is just crazy to put an alcoholic in charge of the bar, and the fox in charge of the henhouse.

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I like that graphics kit but I would never hear the end of it from my coworkers.
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Yeah, I think the graphics on the Veloster work with the design very well. I'm definitely impressed with what Hyudai has done with Veloster in such a short period of time. That grill on the turbo veloster is menacing.
Agreed. I still can't stand those bulbous wheel well arches, but the graphics do a good job of distracting the eyes from this mistake and the rest of the styling is tits!
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oh i also forgot the veloster =P. looks pretty good too.
get the gc, you're young and you can afford it while you go to school. Drive it like a bawss..

can you drive a veloster looking like a bawss...? and a mazda3speed??? is that even a question?

up to you, you want good mpg, or a 2door sport enjoy your fortunate genesis coupe young life + school .
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For school, the GC is not a good option since you cannot haul as much. The WRX wagon would be my #1 for AWD, SPEED3 #2 (still practical but FWD), GC (the most sporty but also the least practical in terms of use).
so how old are you and what will you be using your car for? and what kind of car do u want again? these questions will help us help u find the car u want. we own the gc and can tell u the good and bads about it.

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VELOSTER has WAY MORE rear space than the GC. Of course the GC is way more aggressive styling. HYUNDAI had a VELOSTER at Detroit with some awesome graphics also. Different from this one. I thought the same thing, if they actually made it an option, that would be very cool, and I am not usually into that sort of thing. Factory MATTE paint in an affordable car is just awesome. I wish the GC could get factory MATTE.
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Agreed. I still can't stand those bulbous wheel well arches, but the graphics do a good job of distracting the eyes from this mistake and the rest of the styling is tits!

LOL, this is what I really like about it. Makes it more muscular and less dorky.
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Can someone photoshop these graphics on a white 2013 GC...for shits and giggles? Lol
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hrmm after checking with my insurance. The GC would ring up about 100-200 cheaper than a wrx or speed3 a month that would be quite alot over a year.
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Holy crap, I pay about $600 a year total no matter what the car. You young guys get screwed.
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Holy crap, I pay about $600 a year total no matter what the car. You young guys get screwed.
I live in the Las Vegas area and have an excellent record as does my wife. We have the GC and a Chevy pickup. My insurance runs $ 235 per month every month. Of course the reason is all the tourists here, plus the locals who don't know how to drive. I keep my coverage high as well...$100,000 liability because of all the high dollar Porsches, Beemers, Ferraris, etc. If you total one of those and it's your fault, ya don't want to get stuck paying for it the rest of your life!

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If it really is $1800 increase across the board, they just killed whatever momentum this car had. The main advantage this car had over others was that it was cheaper than the competition. Even with the HP adds, you're still stuck with a Hyundai badge, mediocre interior, limited aftermarket and a questionable M/T. You'll be able to get a well equiped 370Z for $1-2k more than the track, which is worth it IMO (or a base 370 for less than the GT). The 2.0 base is gonna be the same price as a WRX... I'll go with the awd.

Maybe I just don't get it, people dont buy this car for HP... if they want HP they'll buy a Mustang or Camaro (which are more for less now). I was thinking Hyundai would have been able to do this refresh without increasing MSRP much (if at all). If you're stuck paying the extra $2k for a GC, I see a half dozen cars I'd probably buy before it.
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If it really is $1800 increase across the board, they just killed whatever momentum this car had. The main advantage this car had over others was that it was cheaper than the competition. Even with the HP adds, you're still stuck with a Hyundai badge, mediocre interior, limited aftermarket and a questionable M/T. You'll be able to get a well equiped 370Z for $1-2k more than the track, which is worth it IMO (or a base 370 for less than the GT). The 2.0 base is gonna be the same price as a WRX... I'll go with the awd.

Maybe I just don't get it, people dont buy this car for HP... if they want HP they'll buy a Mustang or Camaro (which are more for less now). I was thinking Hyundai would have been able to do this refresh without increasing MSRP much (if at all). If you're stuck paying the extra $2k for a GC, I see a half dozen cars I'd probably buy before it.
This entire post makes no sense.

A) The GC interior smokes the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang interior (go ask Mustang owners about their M/T issues).
B) Its more powerfull than all three...by a LONG way.
C) The badge thing...well I cant do anything about your own insecurities
D) The 370z has less power, 2 fewer seats, and an interior thats on par with the GC.
E) The WRX is an AWD 4 door sedan...two entirely different cars.



The only real and viable competition for the 2.0T is the BRZ (which may actually be the better buy).

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This entire post makes no sense.

A) The GC interior smokes the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang interior.
B) Its more powerfull than all three
C) The badge thing...well I cant do anything about your own insecurities
D) The 370z has less power, 2 fewer seats, and an interior thats on par with the GC.
E) The WRX is an AWD 4 door sedan...two entirely different cars.



The only real and viable competition for the 2.0T is the BRZ (which may actually be the better buy).
THIS post doesn't make much sense...

A) Interiors are subjective. I've been in the new Mustang and the interior is very comparable to the GC. This is compared to a 2010 Grand Touring. Have you test driven the new Mustang?
B) Where do you get your numbers from? For the new price of the track, you could get a decent GT. 350 hp vs 400 hp. And we all know that the Mustang is a monster on the drag strip+handles almost as well an m3.
C) Hyundai is moving forward, but it IS still a hyundai. it still has a stigma. Whether that bothers you or not is highly personal. Never bothered me, but I've had friends who refused to pull the trigger on AMAZING tiburon deals because they're hyundais.
D) The 370Z also has a much better aftermarket, less weight, and is a more sporting car. I can see what you're saying as far as the seats issue, but thats something that has a lot to do with your age. If you're 20something with no family, then it's NICE to have rear seats, but it's not critical. If you need to move people in a pinch, then rear seats ARE critical. I am in the market for another car, and I am definitely cross-shopping the genesis with 2 seaters.
E) Agreed, the WRX is a totally different car.
F) The BRZ doesn't compete with the 2.0T. The BRZ is more similar to an elise or miata. It's low power, high revving, and super lightweight. The 2.0T is high power, heavier, and a grand touring kind of car.
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This entire post makes no sense.

A) The GC interior smokes the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang interior.
B) Its more powerfull than all three
C) The badge thing...well I cant do anything about your own insecurities
D) The 370z has less power, 2 fewer seats, and an interior thats on par with the GC.
E) The WRX is an AWD 4 door sedan...two entirely different cars.



The only real and viable competition for the 2.0T is the BRZ (which may actually be the better buy).
Amen! People are blindly ignoring what this new car brings to the table. Looking at just the engine, the 2.0T is $28.12 for each new horsepower and the 3.8 is $41.86. That is incredibly fair. Nevermind the new interior and 8-speed transmission with torque lock-up. And supposedly the 6-speed manual has been refined/fixed. The base 2.0T is priced almost dead even with a Subaru BRZ but the GC makes 77 more horsepower and 124 more torques.

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THIS post doesn't make much sense...
A) Interiors are subjective. I've been in the new Mustang and the interior is very comparable to the GC. This is compared to a 2010 Grand Touring. Have you test driven the new Mustang? You should probably compare it to the 2013...The mustang interior is really nice, but subjective or not, the 2013 interior is obviously better thought out (cleaner, more intuitive, minimalistic) than the Mustang.

B) Where do you get your numbers from? For the new price of the track, you could get a decent GT. 350 hp vs 400 hp. And we all know that the Mustang is a monster on the drag strip+handles almost as well an m3. Build a Mustang GT with a feature-to-feature match to the 3.8 Track and you will see it's a $40K+ car. Compare it to the $28,750 R-spec to at least make it fair.

C) Hyundai is moving forward, but it IS still a hyundai. it still has a stigma. Whether that bothers you or not is highly personal. Never bothered me, but I've had friends who refused to pull the trigger on AMAZING tiburon deals because they're hyundais. Ford and Chevrolet also have a stigma amongst a lot of people. Hyundai/KIA have been making big waves with their cars designs and technology the past few years. But who cares honestly? This car is yet to be tested and reviewed by the automotive press so we both speak too soon.

D) The 370Z also has a much better aftermarket, less weight, and is a more sporting car. I can see what you're saying as far as the seats issue, but thats something that has a lot to do with your age. If you're 20something with no family, then it's NICE to have rear seats, but it's not critical. If you need to move people in a pinch, then rear seats ARE critical. I am in the market for another car, and I am definitely cross-shopping the genesis with 2 seaters. Aftermarket mod-ability is the exception, not the rule. Most people care about resale value and maintaining a warranty so they leave their cars alone. This is especially true when a car is priced higher, makes adequate power has plenty of tech/features. Also, most 4-door sports sedans have practically useless back seat anyways. To me, it's a a wash...you buy the car that works for you and it's as simple as that.

E) Agreed, the WRX is a totally different car.

F) The BRZ doesn't compete with the 2.0T. The BRZ is more similar to an elise or miata. It's low power, high revving, and super lightweight. The 2.0T is high power, heavier, and a grand touring kind of car. Of course the BRZ competes...it's a RWD sports coupe and Hyundai's own press release wants you to know the GC 2.0T has a superior power:weight ratio. Auto manufacturers have figured out how to make higher curb weight cars handle just as good and better than those feather light sports compacts of the 1990's. And honestly, the BRZ is nothing more than a throw-back to the late 1990's/early millennium sport compact craze. All this talk about curb weight makes my head hurt.

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This entire post makes no sense.

A) The GC interior smokes the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang interior (go ask Mustang owners about their M/T issues).
B) Its more powerfull than all three...by a LONG way.
C) The badge thing...well I cant do anything about your own insecurities
D) The 370z has less power, 2 fewer seats, and an interior thats on par with the GC.
E) The WRX is an AWD 4 door sedan...two entirely different cars.



The only real and viable competition for the 2.0T is the BRZ (which may actually be the better buy).
A) no, while opinion regardless, the Mustang interior and options smokes the GC... hands down, if you are arguing this go get your head checked. Camaro and Challenger, meh... they are at least built better.
B) Mustang 300 hp V6 starts at $22k? 410 hp V8 ~$30kish... obviously more for accesories and whatnot, but however you slice it the Mustang would be the better deal if you want the HP. Not to mention the HUGE Mustang aftermarket.
C) I like Hyundai, but try selling your car without losing your ass... Hyundai isn't known for sport(ish) cars.
D) Again, get your head examined if you think the 370Z interior is on par with the GC... The materials are better than the GC (Suede trim, various color leathers that are designed for the car unlike GC brown leather), and I've heard alot less complaints about stuff rattling loose and whatnot. Not having backseat could be a drawback, but could be a positive... if you're gonna use that argument, the functionality of a WRX hatch or speed3 wins over the GC anyways.
E) Of course they're different cars, that doesn't mean they aren't competitors.

I'm gonna have to take a closer look at the BRZ/FRS now... I initially ruled them out for being a 1st year platform.
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Amen! People are blindly ignoring what this new car brings to the table. Looking at just the engine, the 2.0T is $28.12 for each new horsepower and the 3.8 is $41.86. That is incredibly fair. Nevermind the new interior and 8-speed transmission with torque lock-up. And supposedly the 6-speed manual has been refined/fixed. The base 2.0T is priced almost dead even with a Subaru BRZ but the GC makes 77 more horsepower and 124 more torques.
#1, if you're pricing a car by dollars for HP (which is dumb in the first place)... I already said the Mustang was better BY FAR. Retarded argument.

#2 8 speed transmission will be far better than the 2.0 5 speed, about equal to the old ZF 6 speed, slightly better mileage. Meh. The old 2.0 5 speed had no business being in this car in the first place.

#3 they haven't even released pricing on the BRZ
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THIS post doesn't make much sense...

A) Interiors are subjective. I've been in the new Mustang and the interior is very comparable to the GC. This is compared to a 2010 Grand Touring. Have you test driven the new Mustang?
B) Where do you get your numbers from? For the new price of the track, you could get a decent GT. 350 hp vs 400 hp. And we all know that the Mustang is a monster on the drag strip+handles almost as well an m3.
C) Hyundai is moving forward, but it IS still a hyundai. it still has a stigma. Whether that bothers you or not is highly personal. Never bothered me, but I've had friends who refused to pull the trigger on AMAZING tiburon deals because they're hyundais.
D) The 370Z also has a much better aftermarket, less weight, and is a more sporting car. I can see what you're saying as far as the seats issue, but thats something that has a lot to do with your age. If you're 20something with no family, then it's NICE to have rear seats, but it's not critical. If you need to move people in a pinch, then rear seats ARE critical. I am in the market for another car, and I am definitely cross-shopping the genesis with 2 seaters.
E) Agreed, the WRX is a totally different car.
F) The BRZ doesn't compete with the 2.0T. The BRZ is more similar to an elise or miata. It's low power, high revving, and super lightweight. The 2.0T is high power, heavier, and a grand touring kind of car.
A) Interiors are subjective??? Since when? Is a Benz S class interior better than an Elantra's or is that also subjective??

B) Package up a GT with comparable equipment levels....see where you get to with a GT. Your looking at north of $40K There is no point in comparing the GT with the GC....the GC compares to the V6.

C) Again I can't help you or anybody else who still has hang ups about the badge. Hyundai has won awards for the Gen Sedan, Sonata, Veloster, Elantra and Tuscon. The TAU was on Ward's 10 Best Engines in the world list. Hyundai is on the top of the list for every JD power customer satisfaction and initial quality surveys. If a segment of the population still wants to live in the 90s...whatever.

D) The only place the Z MAY...MAY beat the new GC is going to be on the track. Straight line speed the GC will hang or even beat the Z, they difference in curb weight is about 200lbs.

E) The BRZ is a 4 seat, RWD, 200hp, coupe...thats in the same price range as the 2.0T....they are direct competitors.
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