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A couple questions before a purchase

I've gone back and forth for awhile deciding whether to get the 2.0 or the 3.8. My current car is a v6 and I didn't want to step down to a 4 cylinder, but I do want the turbo. I missed out on a 2014 2.0 rspec and now unfortunately the only vehicle I can find that is the color I want, which is grey, that is an Rspec and is a manual is unfortunately a 2013. My questions are:
1) I know that the foglights can be added and wired in. Can they be set up like a stock 2014+? Meaning if you were to get in the car and didn't know is was a 2013 can it be installed on the same switch as the 2014+? Not sure if I'm explaining that right.
2) Anyone in the market for rspec red seats? I may be getting rid of them in favor of the newer rspec or black heated seats.
3) Is it worth me dropping the 2013 transmission in favor of the 2014 with the carbon coated synchros?
4) Is it possible to add the stock navigation system or will I need to go aftermarket?
5)To those with 2.0 is it possible to upgrade the exhaust without it being obnoxiously loud? I had to shout to the passenger when at highway speeds when I had an upgraded catback on my last car. I want to upgrade this car and jump right to a stage II tune, but since that mean the whole exhaust has to be upgraded I don't want to have to shout to the passenger or deal with drone. I want to mod the car but I don't want to get to the point where it takes that fun out of daily driving.
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I'm really In need of some answers guys for question 1 and 5. Your answers will help me determine which year I go with but more importantly which model.
As far as the foglights if I get this kit with the connectors and stalk will I be set or will there still be some wiring? OEM LED Foglights, importshark.com

I would like to go with a BTR stage 2 tune or possibly even upgrade the turbo. My main concern is the exhaust. With my last car I had a catback and a lightweight flywheel and for me it took the fun our of daily driving. I'd like to get at least 300whp but I don't want the car to be annoying to drive. I see that the stage 2 requires the car to be catless. I really don't want to deal with the smell and emissions issues. Is it possible to do a turbo back setup that retains a high flo cat so that I can avoid the smell, emissions issues and drone/excessively loud exhaust on the highway. I'd like to be able to talk to my passenger and take long road trips without getting annoyed by the exhaust. I have not found a concrete answer on this. I would love the turbo but I may just lean towards the 3.8 if this isn't possible.

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I can't help with your questions as I'm pretty new to the genesis community and don't know the answers. However, I can tell you that I bought a 2011 3.8 track and love every bit of it. I don't regret going with the 3.8.
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I've gone back and forth for awhile deciding whether to get the 2.0 or the 3.8. My current car is a v6 and I didn't want to step down to a 4 cylinder, but I do want the turbo. I missed out on a 2014 2.0 rspec and now unfortunately the only vehicle I can find that is the color I want, which is grey, that is an Rspec and is a manual is unfortunately a 2013. My questions are:
1) I know that the foglights can be added and wired in. Can they be set up like a stock 2014+? Meaning if you were to get in the car and didn't know is was a 2013 can it be installed on the same switch as the 2014+? Not sure if I'm explaining that right.
2) Anyone in the market for rspec red seats? I may be getting rid of them in favor of the newer rspec or black heated seats.
3) Is it worth me dropping the 2013 transmission in favor of the 2014 with the carbon coated synchros?
4) Is it possible to add the stock navigation system or will I need to go aftermarket?
5)To those with 2.0 is it possible to upgrade the exhaust without it being obnoxiously loud? I had to shout to the passenger when at highway speeds when I had an upgraded catback on my last car. I want to upgrade this car and jump right to a stage II tune, but since that mean the whole exhaust has to be upgraded I don't want to have to shout to the passenger or deal with drone. I want to mod the car but I don't want to get to the point where it takes that fun out of daily driving.
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1. They can be added. ebay has listings for a retrofit kit using mobis parts (OEM manufacturer for hyundai/kia's plastic parts.
You'll have to wire it but replaces the left steering wheel stock.
2. If shipping wasn't so d*nm much to where I'm at....
3. IIRC 2013 and 2014 use the same transmission, I could be wrong.
4. Yes..... if change out the whole body wiring harness, roof fin (gps antenna) and computers with it (body control module, security module, and ecu have to match or be reprogrammed because of how the immobilizer system works)
5. It's really the muffler you choose. Engine noise is louder in the car, than you would expect outside the car (stock exhaust).
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I can't help with your questions as I'm pretty new to the genesis community and don't know the answers. However, I can tell you that I bought a 2011 3.8 track and love every bit of it. I don't regret going with the 3.8.
Thats the dilemma. I do want the 3.8 because of the options that the track has but I want to have the turbo out the box. I don't want to get the 3.8 and throw 6k+ at the turbo kit.
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1. They can be added. ebay has listings for a retrofit kit using mobis parts (OEM manufacturer for hyundai/kia's plastic parts.
You'll have to wire it but replaces the left steering wheel stock.
2. If shipping wasn't so d*nm much to where I'm at....
3. IIRC 2013 and 2014 use the same transmission, I could be wrong.
4. Yes..... if change out the whole body wiring harness, roof fin (gps antenna) and computers with it (body control module, security module, and ecu have to match or be reprogrammed because of how the immobilizer system works)
5. It's really the muffler you choose. Engine noise is louder in the car, than you would expect outside the car (stock exhaust).
Thank you for all the info. As far as all the kits available out there, when it comes to the actual foglights themselves are they are the same with the same lighting? So I'm assuming nobody has retrofitted the stock navigation system as that is a ton to switch over. If I'm choosing the mufflers then should I just go custom then?
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Hey, uh, Mr. track n field... I don't wanna name names but do a little research on the vendors you plan to purchase from, OK? Otherwise, it looks like most of your questions are covered here. I hope you get a car you love. Carry on!

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Hey, uh, Mr. track n field... I don't wanna name names but do a little research on the vendors you plan to purchase from, OK? Otherwise, it looks like most of your questions are covered here. I hope you get a car you love. Carry on!
Lol I wasn't sure if this was all sarcasm or not. My previous car was a tiburon and I've been a member of their forum for 14 years. I don't have the time to do a lot of searching like I used to with my job and family but I will make sure to do some searching on the vendors though. Just hoping the really knowledgeable guys give the quick easy answers to some questions that will take a long time for me to search out 100% correct answers that aren't outdated as some of the threads are.
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So you want others to do your work for you? Are you paying for our time?

You do realize that there are many armchair experts on this forum and in most cases, no one right answer. If you are relying on others' suggestions, good luck! It may turn out to be an expensive and problematic proposition...
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So you want others to do your work for you? Are you paying for our time?

You do realize that there are many armchair experts on this forum and in most cases, no one right answer. If you are relying on others' suggestions, good luck! It may turn out to be an expensive and problematic proposition...
Is anyone one here paying for anyone's knowledge on here? People go to forums for help and to get knowledge. I don't know anyone that wants to spends hours searching through threads hoping to find exactly what they are looking for. Maybe you have that time but I don't. Especially when a lot of the threads are outdated. It takes a senior member that knows the in and out of this car to take one minute to post up should they want to. I don't think me taking the advice of someone about foglights and a custom exhaust will lead to catastrophic failure. If I was building an engine thats a different story.
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I suggest you read your own posts here and then spend your tine searching as opposed to asking.

I can give you the laundry list of items and the work I have done to my car, does that mean I think thats what you should do and would that even be what you are looking for? Will everyone else agree with me? The answer to both is NO.

I dont agree with a lot of brands and items people buy but that is not my place to say as its not my car. I have my opinions based on my knowledge and /or my experience. I woukd be glad to give you the list but that would cause a thousand responses why you should or should not go with that part or that work...

Again, what irked me was that you said you didnt have the time to do it so that is why you are asking the members here. I ask you, is your time more valuable than anyone else's here???...I think not!
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I'd like to get at least 300whp but I don't want the car to be annoying to drive.
You sir want an Audi S4, not a GC .... honestly, the way I see it, you're barking up the wrong tree with your laundry list of must haves & must nots. Nothing wrong with being picky and getting the car you want, I just think you're looking at a bigger & more involved build than you're willing to take on and make concessions on.

If you *must* have a GC, and are fine with 300whp, your best bet is a 3.8 and do some basic Intake/Header/Exhaust/Custom Tune work, rock close to 300whp all day long and give up on having a turbo. The 3.8 makes excellent & reliable power once tuned properly and meets your criteria for a non-droney exhaust if you buy a nice one (ark grip v2 in mine is great)

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I suggest you read your own posts here and then spend your tine searching as opposed to asking.

I can give you the laundry list of items and the work I have done to my car, does that mean I think thats what you should do and would that even be what you are looking for? Will everyone else agree with me? The answer to both is NO.

I dont agree with a lot of brands and items people buy but that is not my place to say as its not my car. I have my opinions based on my knowledge and /or my experience. I woukd be glad to give you the list but that would cause a thousand responses why you should or should not go with that part or that work...

Again, what irked me was that you said you didnt have the time to do it so that is why you are asking the members here. I ask you, is your time more valuable than anyone else's here???...I think not!
I get that it looks like I'm some newb on here asking the same bs that you have personally seen 1000 times and you have a gripe with how I worded having no time. Like I said I have been a member of another site for 14 years and have done all the work on my car and have spent thousands like most others. I have first hand knowledge and when I see some newbie to the car come on and ask a question that I have seen a million times I don't get my jollies off tearing them a new one. Instead of telling them to get out the flame suit, or search or other nonsense if it takes me 5 seconds to give them first hand correct info I will do it. It takes me 10 seconds to give an answer as it does to tell someone to search. I'm not demanding anyone take the time to search for me but If a knowledgeable member sees what I'm posting and can give that quick response then great. Some questions like the one about the exhaust you can't get enough info from an exhaust clip. A lot of times its not the full TBE and will just be a catback. Plus you have no idea how it sounds in the car low or highway speeds, if it has drone, if someone knowing what they know now would change there setup, etc etc. I get that peoples opinions are subjective but if you have a lot of people giving the same subjective opinion there is a good chance that if may be the best direction. To each his own man.
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I'd like to get at least 300whp but I don't want the car to be annoying to drive.
You sir want an Audi S4, not a GC ....
Or a WRX STI
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"I want to mod the car but I don't want to get to the point where it takes that fun out of daily driving".
This sounds like where I was (sort of), when I purchaced my 14, 3.8 ultimate auto new in 14. I originally was going to buy the 2.0 rspec, but wasn't enthused by the feel of the clutch and shifting. I dont race, just a bit of spirited street driving. I just went with a Sprint V3 throttle booster, Borla cat back, Bridgestone RE11 tires,front lip, rear splitter,wing badges, and all bulbs replaced with L.E.D.'s. No drone, nice throttle response, handling, and power without any annoying issues,smog, or state inspection problems, still makes a good daily driver if i want it to be. I also own two other cars which are turbo, 2010 Mazda CX7 and 2013 KIA Optima sxl, I like them all but the Genesis coupe is my favorite. Nothing wrong with modding your ride if thats what you enjoy, but theres nothing wrong with just getting somthing that has the main features your after and just adding some minor things to get it to your liking without going overboard and retaining the daily usability of your ride.
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You sir want an Audi S4, not a GC .... honestly, the way I see it, you're barking up the wrong tree with your laundry list of must haves & must nots. Nothing wrong with being picky and getting the car you want, I just think you're looking at a bigger & more involved build than you're willing to take on and make concessions on.

If you *must* have a GC, and are fine with 300whp, your best bet is a 3.8 and do some basic Intake/Header/Exhaust/Custom Tune work, rock close to 300whp all day long and give up on having a turbo. The 3.8 makes excellent & reliable power once tuned properly and meets your criteria for a non-droney exhaust if you buy a nice one (ark grip v2 in mine is great)
Oddly enough I'm looking at a used S4 as well. Thanks for the info.

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Or a WRX STI
Not my cup of tea. Still nice car though.

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This sounds like where I was (sort of), when I purchaced my 14, 3.8 ultimate auto new in 14. I originally was going to buy the 2.0 rspec, but wasn't enthused by the feel of the clutch and shifting. I dont race, just a bit of spirited street driving. I just went with a Sprint V3 throttle booster, Borla cat back, Bridgestone RE11 tires,front lip, rear splitter,wing badges, and all bulbs replaced with L.E.D.'s. No drone, nice throttle response, handling, and power without any annoying issues,smog, or state inspection problems, still makes a good daily driver if i want it to be. I also own two other cars which are turbo, 2010 Mazda CX7 and 2013 KIA Optima sxl, I like them all but the Genesis coupe is my favorite. Nothing wrong with modding your ride if thats what you enjoy, but theres nothing wrong with just getting somthing that has the main features your after and just adding some minor things to get it to your liking without going overboard and retaining the daily usability of your ride.
Good info man. Thanks for the post. I really don't want to have to deal with inspections but every two years where I have to swap out the 02 housing isn't terrible. Upon looking at more videos of turbo back exhausts honestly the Exceladyne isn't loud at all and sounds great. Turbo xs isn't bad either. A lot of the other ones are unnecessarily loud like the ISR and not a great sound imo. Its dissapointing that it won't have a sunroof or navigation but I can live with that. I could get the premium and and the lsd, seats and brembos but not sure if I want to do that either.
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Lol I wasn't sure if this was all sarcasm or not. My previous car was a tiburon and I've been a member of their forum for 14 years. I don't have the time to do a lot of searching like I used to with my job and family but I will make sure to do some searching on the vendors though. Just hoping the really knowledgeable guys give the quick easy answers to some questions that will take a long time for me to search out 100% correct answers that aren't outdated as some of the threads are.
Lol, It got salty in here in my absence!

So, no, not sarcasm, just fair warning from the link you posted.

So, if you want a 300ish hp car that's not a whole bunch of trouble I'd say you're ok with a mostly stock BK2 3.8. Sounds good, nice inside, and with some chassis and suspension mods that won't fry state inspections, you have a pretty fun(if a bit portly) whip. Plenty of exhausts, can squeeze a bit more out of the V6 with a tune, keep the tires reasonable and you can get decent mileage... What's not to love?

BTW, B6-B7 S4s are a whole lotta fun. But they aren't canyon carvers, and they aren't nice at the gas pump. Also, their maint. tends to be a wallet serial killer. B8 is a nice car, but it's kinda gone soft at that point.

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Audis out of warranty can be deadly on the wallet.

My daily is an '18 S5 and with the 3.0 twin scroll turbo power plant its quite peppy with no turbo lag (due to twin scroll, new for 2018). Oh, bad thing is it only comes as an AT.

I am not a fan of the WRX either but it fit your 300hp turbo wants.
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My next car is going to be an EV, because if it has an engine, I usually end up fiddling with it, and eventually end up with enough spare parts to build 3/4 of that car -_-
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My next car is going to be an EV, because if it has an engine, I usually end up fiddling with it, and eventually end up with enough spare parts to build 3/4 of that car -_-
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