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Way to bring back a dead thread -

Originally Posted by CrookedH
Really not trying to be rude, but as others said, search.

Even if you don't use the search function, looking through "General Discussion" for just 2 minutes will show at least 5 threads with almost the exact same title.

MODS: Please, for the love of all members sanity, sticky some of the threads below:

2.0T and 3.8
2.0T VS 3.8 - Pros & Cons
Lambda vs Theta
2.0 or 3.8??
3.8 Base vs. 2.0 Track
Seeking advice!!! 2.0 Track vs. 3.8 GT
2.0T VS 3.8 - Pros & Cons
Getting an Automatic: 2.0T or 3.8?
what if i could get the 3.8 base same as 2.0t base which should i get
shoul i get the 2.0T or 3.8 v6??
2.0T or V-6
2.0T or 3.8?
3.8 or 2.0T?
gas milage between 2.0 and 3.8
2.0 Premium Manual vs 3.8 Automatic Base
3.8 or 2.0T?
2.0T Auto and 3.8L Auto
2.0 vs 3.8 - Why the 2.0 is getting all the love
2.0T vs 3.8 V6
2.0 Manual vs 3.8?
2.0L turbo gt (track pack with brembo) or 3.8L V6 gt (track pack with brembo)
Choices - 2t or 3.8
3.8 base vs. 2.0 Premium
3.8L V6 Base vs. 2.0T Premium
Canadian 2.0GT VS 3.8 base.. my dilema..
2.0T or V6
2.0T Track? or 3.8 Track?
BAse 3.8 vs 2.0 premium? which one would you choose?
which one??
Newbie thoughts: 2.0T vs V6 which is better?


Please Please Please sticky something about this topic. Please?

Edit: Added some more links. I'm going to try and find the rest of them...
Edit 2: Wow, a bit worse then I thought it would be, and I'm only to November of 09....
Edit 3: Seriously?
 

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I made it to this thread after reading 5 others and am still acquiring information. I can attest that the search function works to the point at which I can read SEVERAL threads over a period of an hour (or more while cross referencing and performing 'other search comparisons') and wish the whole time it was all collated and consolidated in one thread without all the complaints.

A large majority of these threads are jacked by people tired of answering who whine in great length and don't provide any useful information. If you're going to post, write something constructive or DON'T WRITE AT ALL. You don't have to concern yourself with any particular thread. I will state that the majority of those fed up with the question more than likely have a considerable amount of helpful information to share and is generally greatly appreciated when done so.

It'd be nice to have:
1) 2.0t and 3.8 with their trim levels and what each one contains
2) A basic list of mods, power reached and dollar spent comparison
3) Objective assessment of pros and cons

This is information I seek which I have not found in it's entirety anywhere on this forum. I have collected data from all over the Internet and only half of that have I found in the threads I read in the '2.0t, 3.8 comparison forum'.
 

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i perfer the 2.0t and by the time u get a turbo kit for v6 for 3.8 you will be 6k in debt lol on 2.0t with 6k u be pushing 600 whp
 

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on 2.0t with 6k u be pushing 600 whp
No you wont. If so, wheres all these 600hp 2.0t gen coupes at? I've seen one that's pushing mid 400's from a local.

You can barely get that with an Evo or DSM reliably, and they have actual aftermarket to support.
 

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No you wont. If so, wheres all these 600hp 2.0t gen coupes at? I've seen one that's pushing mid 400's from a local.

You can barely get that with an Evo or DSM reliably, and they have actual aftermarket to support.
Yea, what he said.
 

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no replacement for displacement... but not really a productive argument. angels on a pin...
if you're ready to void your warranty, it's not hard to build a 2.0 past a 3.8 with bolt-ons.
not hard to build a 3.8 past the reach of a 2.0.
2.0 has a little more compatibility with other platforms.
 

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Im not into modding. I test drove the 2.0t manual followed by the 3.8 auto and went with the 3.8. Seemed to have the zippiness I was after. I went into the dealer thinking id be leaving with the turbo model... I mean turbo should mean it's faster, right? Well not my conclusion after the test drive. Again im not into modding... if you are perhaps the turbo is the way to go.
 

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Im not into modding. I test drove the 2.0t manual followed by the 3.8 auto and went with the 3.8. Seemed to have the zippiness I was after. I went into the dealer thinking id be leaving with the turbo model... I mean turbo should mean it's faster, right? Well not my conclusion after the test drive. Again im not into modding... if you are perhaps the turbo is the way to go.
Well for one, no, turbo does not always mean faster.

In these cars, the turbo 4cyl only produces ~275hp. The 3.8 produces ~350hp.

Secondly, there's torque multiplication factors involved with transmission choices and numbers of gears, manual being 6spd and auto being 8speed. Having more gears that are shorter but spaced more closely will give more of a "zippy" or "torquey" feeling than less gears that are taller, especially considering a good automatic can have you always in the best torque area dependent on the situation. Still, nothing beats banging gears in a manual....

Modding wise, the turbo is the preferred platform. You can do more with a car that comes factory forced-induction, for far less spent, than one that does not.
 
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