Wow man. I think your wrong on so many levels. From someone that used to live in NC, yes I used to go to the mountains and throughout the back roads in central NC all the time and play . The roads there are curvy as hell, noting they outline old farmer passages and various trails that were cut out of the woods back in the early life of America.Look out world!
2013 Subaru BRZ Track Test Video -- Inside Line - YouTube
I'm laughing at all the people saying, "hurrrr but i don't care about acceleration. this car will be fun in the twisties hurrrrrrr". What twisties? Are you a professional race car driver who works at the track? Do you go on illegal canyon runs every morning and evening to and from work? Public roads are 90% straight line acceleration and public twisties are usually unkempt and unsafe to drive fast on...you won't even be able to jockey for position against minivans. Motortrend managed a 0-60 of 6.4 seconds but is essentially even with Edmunds in the quarter mile time...just further proof of how MotorTrend f*cks around to get those "faster than everyone else" 0-60 times. The BRZ fails as a daily driver sports car.
Sorry man, you haven't convinced me. I grew up in Asheville NC and used to vacation deep in the mountains so I'm familiar with the curvy never ending Appalachian roads. I was just a middle school kid back then (~15 years ago), but I do have clear memories of cars on several occasions being pulled out of gullies/ravines on the twisty roads out there. It was because of black ice patches in the winter (very common) and there was always a 50% chance of rain to dampen the roads in the summer. You were always dealing with less that ideal driving conditions. Not safe for a typical amateur sports car enthusiast. If I lived in Asheville today, I would probably be driving an AWD sports car with a spare set of winter tires. I'll take your word for it regarding other areas of the southeast.Wow man. I think your wrong on so many levels. From someone that used to live in NC, yes I used to go to the mountains and throughout the back roads in central NC all the time and play .
There are going to be 500+whp 3.8s with the new BTRCC turbo set up....I doubt you will see 500+hp BRZ/FR-S on the street anytime soon.The BRZ will be slower out of the box, of course. Rumor is that Subaru is working on a turbo version now though, and Toyota has been known for a while now to be developing a supercharger.
However, the BRZ/FRS aftermarket will be enormous compared to what is offered for the Genesis Coupe. I wouldn't be surprised if there were faster BRZs/FRSs than any Genesis Coupe here on the board within the first year.
I doubt that very much. Nissan, Hyundai, Ford, Chevy can make fun fast 2 door coupes.We need the frs to sell so Toyota see's that we want more exciting cars then there Bland cars they have now. If it dosnt sell well I don't think they'll try to make another sports car for a long time
+1I just saw both the BRZ and the FR-S at the Denver auto show and while the lines are nice it is a very small car. Also the interiors look very cheap on both models in person, lots of hard plastics.
It is called cost and MSRP. They already lost the muscle car war due to poor sales. The last Supra Turbos were $40k plus. That was Corvette territory. Unless you just love Japanese cars, those prices make it hard to move when their were cars that cost much less and had a lot of bang for the buck. Sure the turbos were nice, but when new, they were not what they have become now.I doubt that very much. Nissan, Hyundai, Ford, Chevy can make fun fast 2 door coupes.
Toyota had this market. Back in 85, they had the Celica and they had the Supra. Then some suit decided the Celica needed to die and the Supra needed to become fat.
So now its upto Toyota/Subaru to get their heads out of their collective rears and drop some serious HP in these sexy cars. They can do it. Why they won't is obviously being blocked by somebody at the highest level who has an axe to grind with this segment. It makes no sense.