300 + 15/20 whp

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silver nismo

Discussion Starter · Jan 23, 2011

Hi guys I did a bit of a research and it started to get messy in the end, I have done some really powerful cars before 350z TT Evos and so on but the 2.0 isn't helping much. I will make this short.
Beyond redline stage 3 kit is it good enough or not.

The reason I'm asking I would rather build my own project lie i did in my z but there are a lot of things i don't know.

Do you need fuel return lines?
Do you need a steel gas kit?
Do you need a fuel reg. could the car be tuned with a stand alone?
is there any cams for the car that you can actually buy? i found some one who said yes and they installed them and they got a crazy 50 hp out of it and then others jump in and say noo but bla bla bla.

Not much of useful info around, and the only reason i have to do a 300+ 2.0T coz it belongs to our racing team. I personally drive the 3.8 v6 and im happy.

Bottom line and i am very sorry for making this long, do i go with the stage 3 beyond redline kit and thats it be happy.

thank you again for your info.

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silver nismo

Discussion Starter · #2 · Jan 23, 2011

one more thing, if there is an easy way to get there without paying all of this money i will be happy to do it, such as installing the garret bolt on turbo, keep the rest of the stuff stock and then have a manual boost controller installed hmmmm i don't know add injectors and a FMIC and thats it, but again what will the tune be??

i do need help in this

(NOTE we dont get the 2.0 T in our region thats why the knowledge is nearly zero over here, we only get the 3.8 v6)

thanks again..

CrookedH

· #3 · Jan 23, 2011 (Edited)

300whp is very doable with stage 3, I dyno'd 290/320 with the 91octane stage 3 tune and hit 303whp with a little tweaking. Had an issue with the ECU holding throttle back though. Once I get some tuning gremlins sorted out I'm going back and hoping for 315whp+. Beyond redline also sells cams for this car. I believe they're the only ones proven to make power and not cause issues. That 320ft/lbs was available at 2800rpms as well

Stage 3 turbo seems to spool just about as quick as the Evo 8/9/10 turbos.

I built my own stage 3 as I only got the tune and turbo from BR. All the other parts were from random vendors. Ksmith also just used the CMD with his BR upgraded turbo and made like 275whp. No need for a return line or anything else really until you're in the 350-400whp range.

curtisb

· #4 · Jan 23, 2011

im waiting on my turbo kit to get hear so we can find out if my cams are gona put out some hp

DropTheGloves

· #5 · Jan 23, 2011

You would be better off waiting for the 2012 2.0 to come out. There is a lot of speculation that it will be bumped up to 274 horsepower, with a better transmission and better throttle response.

Throw a stage 3 kit on that and you will be looking at almost 370 horsepower possibly. Especially if the kit responds the same way, which I am sure it will.

Kamkaze

· #6 · Jan 23, 2011

They already have the the genesis so what u are saying is pointless ^^

DubbleDuecer

· #7 · Jan 23, 2011

DropTheGloves said:
You would be better off waiting for the 2012 2.0 to come out. There is a lot of speculation that it will be bumped up to 274 horsepower, with a better transmission and better throttle response.

Throw a stage 3 kit on that and you will be looking at almost 370 horsepower possibly. Especially if the kit responds the same way, which I am sure it will.

Saying the 2012 Gen will have 274hp PLUS that there will soon be a stage 3 kit that will add 100hp to that EQUALS way too much speculation.

Why are you "so sure" the kit will respond the same way? Assuming you really mean the car will respond to the kit the same way.

IMO there are just way too many unknowns and variables to make ANY assumptions. Especially about tuning on a car that isn't even out. Not trying to be an ass, just saying.

flylow

· #8 · Jan 24, 2011

Im tired of the 2012 talk, world is going to be over anyways and that wasnt his question...

Yes! You can make 300whp with stage 3, yes you can build a similar stage with other brand parts. Thats what i did with stage one, thats what i did this week with stage 2. You can get even more power with another turbo. Check out turbo-kits.com you will need supporting mods when passing the 300whp line... Clutch and internals later on but you prob knew this already

silver nismo

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 24, 2011

DropTheGloves said:
You would be better off waiting for the 2012 2.0 to come out. There is a lot of speculation that it will be bumped up to 274 horsepower, with a better transmission and better throttle response.

Throw a stage 3 kit on that and you will be looking at almost 370 horsepower possibly. Especially if the kit responds the same way, which I am sure it will.

The thing is, our cars come over specially for us with nothing in them, not even a sunroof.. weight reduction.. the only thing that they refused to remove are the airbags

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power wise we are ok all we need is 315 0r 320 max, coz we race these cars in Autocross, drift and speed tests so we still look for maximum grip from first gear.

But thanks for your info much appreciated.

silver nismo

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jan 24, 2011

CrookedH said:
300whp is very doable with stage 3, I dyno'd 290/320 with the 91octane stage 3 tune and hit 303whp with a little tweaking. Had an issue with the ECU holding throttle back though. Once I get some tuning gremlins sorted out I'm going back and hoping for 315whp+. Beyond redline also sells cams for this car. I believe they're the only ones proven to make power and not cause issues. That 320ft/lbs was available at 2800rpms as well Stage 3 turbo seems to spool just about as quick as the Evo 8/9/10 turbos.

I built my own stage 3 as I only got the tune and turbo from BR. All the other parts were from random vendors. Ksmith also just used the CMD with his BR upgraded turbo and made like 275whp. No need for a return line or anything else really until you're in the 350-400whp range.

How is the clutch performing, would it slip after a while with this power?

silver nismo

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jan 24, 2011

flylow said:
Im tired of the 2012 talk, world is going to be over anyways and that wasnt his question...

Yes! You can make 300whp with stage 3, yes you can build a similar stage with other brand parts. Thats what i did with stage one, thats what i did this week with stage 2. You can get even more power with another turbo. Check out turbo-kits.com you will need supporting mods when passing the 300whp line... Clutch and internals later on but you prob knew this already

thanks flylow, and in fact i did have a look at turbo-kits.com last night before i do this post but to be honest i was a bit scared that the parts come here and then i discover i missed something to complete the project and then i have to wait till it gets here. the car will be here in 30 days and we have a race on the 5th of March. I'm really tight on schedual and i have to get it right from the first time.. other wise we will enter the race with one car and thats not good

flylow

· #12 · Jan 24, 2011

silver nismo said:
thanks flylow, and in fact i did have a look at turbo-kits.com last night before i do this post but to be honest i was a bit scared that the parts come here and then i discover i missed something to complete the project and then i have to wait till it gets here. the car will be here in 30 days and we have a race on the 5th of March. I'm really tight on schedual and i have to get it right from the first time.. other wise we will enter the race with one car and thats not good

Its good for reference. You can see what turbo upgrades or bolt on turbos we have available.

RudyH

· #13 · Jan 24, 2011 (Edited)

http://www.gencoupe.com/general-discussion/11778-ams-explores-gen-coupe-fuel-system-2-0t.html

Think EVO IX, not quite EVO X

CrookedH

· #14 · Jan 24, 2011

silver nismo said:
How is the clutch performing, would it slip after a while with this power?

I had to ditch the stock clutch. It started slipping within 5K miles of the turbo upgrade. I'm running Spec 3+ w/ light weight flywheel now.

grilledcheez

· #15 · Jan 24, 2011

CrookedH said:
I had to ditch the stock clutch. It started slipping within 5K miles of the turbo upgrade. I'm running Spec 3+ w/ light weight flywheel now.

How's that Spec clutch holding up? I'm not sure whether to go with CM or Spec, once I start saving a for one or the other. Spec seems to be a little cheaper.

dennis_david

· #16 · Jan 24, 2011

CrookedH said:
I had to ditch the stock clutch. It started slipping within 5K miles of the turbo upgrade. I'm running Spec 3+ w/ light weight flywheel now.

My clutch gave signs of near death once passing 320whp on my Evo9 turbo right at the dyno

Got the SPEC Stage 3+ with flywheel at end of last summer.

CrookedH

· #17 · Jan 24, 2011

grilledcheez said:
How's that Spec clutch holding up? I'm not sure whether to go with CM or Spec, once I start saving a for one or the other. Spec seems to be a little cheaper.

No signs of slipping and no issues except a finicky reverse. If I don't hit it just right I'll get a little bucking. Nothing that would keep me from purchasing again though.

dennis_david said:
My clutch gave signs of near death once passing 320whp on my Evo9 turbo right at the dyno

Got the SPEC Stage 3+ with flywheel at end of last summer.

Good to hear. Still problem free for you too?

dennis_david

· #18 · Jan 24, 2011

I've hit it hard a few times even in this cold and no issues so far **cross my fingers**

Even on snow or ice, the clutch is also smooth enough to take off.

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