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So, i know there is another thread out there that resembles this one. However, my question is more so to the proposed try-solution that was given to me by a Hyundai dealer. I own a 2013 2.0T A/T with 94k on it. When the car is warmed up fully, and I have been doing the stop/go traffic back to back, my car has a hard shift from 2nd to 3rd. I wouldnt really say it is slipping, but it feels as though the gear shift is just taking longer and the RPMs are lengthened during the shift. Additionally, you can feel it shift a little rough. The dealer I called recommends that i get a transmission flush and says that it is most likely the issue. What do you guys think about that advice?
 

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First trans filter and refill is listed at 60K.
This is way too long.
If you have additional issues, try LUCAS trans juice. It worked wonders on my 93 Bronco with 200K on a E4OD tranny.
 

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new fluid and filter should fix. got a 2010 i bought a few months ago finally decided to start fixing this one for sale. fixed the misfire it had on cylinder 3. it would randomly misfire very inconsistently, i checked the spark plug and it looked good, tested all the coils and they were good. so i finally bought some spark plugs from advanced auto to begin testing. 11$ for 4 with their online 20% discount code. it fixed it instantly lol. now the code p0733 magically appeared after the p0303 was fixed. the transmission goes into 2 different types of limp mode. one where it says D in sport mode and jerks. another when it says 4 when you engage sport mode and it wont go until you shut it off. going to try fix the transmission today. but good luck bro and pls keep me posted
 

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A couple of things

Your AT has 94K.

It undoubtedly needs new fluids. But it has 94K of wear on it.

Lucas is a good fluid, but its a "standard" AT fluid. It has standard heat resistance, and no effect on already existing wear or NVH related wear issues.

CERMA AT has 800F heat proof capabiltiy. It has no detergents like standar AT fluids. It has proprietary STM compounds which "reverse" wear related NVH. It also rejuvenates seals inside your transaxle.

If you are heavily tuned, or really aggressive in your driving then a 30K trans fluid interval is wise. I had CERMA AT fluid in my 300 hp VT 6AT spd that I drove like an idiot for 80 K. Perfection.

I put CERMA AT in my Gens 8 AT when I bought her, before I turbo'd her. Now with my 7200 revs she is protected. ( Runs at 98.6 F when the car has 177 F oil and 181 coolant0. THAT is protection.
 

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Dealership wants to charge buuku money for the trans oil change. Where do you all recommend?
Also, I bought the car when it had 74k on it and one owner before. It could have been changed before but i dont know for sure.
 

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Your AT has 94K.

It undoubtedly needs new fluids. But it has 94K of wear on it.

Lucas is a good fluid, but its a "standard" AT fluid. It has standard heat resistance, and no effect on already existing wear or NVH related wear issues.

CERMA AT has 800F heat proof capabiltiy. It has no detergents like standar AT fluids. It has proprietary STM compounds which "reverse" wear related NVH. It also rejuvenates seals inside your transaxle.

If you are heavily tuned, or really aggressive in your driving then a 30K trans fluid interval is wise. I had CERMA AT fluid in my 300 hp VT 6AT spd that I drove like an idiot for 80 K. Perfection.

I put CERMA AT in my Gens 8 AT when I bought her, before I turbo'd her. Now with my 7200 revs she is protected. ( Runs at 98.6 F when the car has 177 F oil and 181 coolant0. THAT is protection.
Should I just buy the Cerma STM-3 additive stuff?
And im guessing the dealer is the best place to go for it?
 

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Should I just buy the Cerma STM-3 additive stuff?
And im guessing the dealer is the best place to go for it?

My dealers trans service labor was 59.95.

Buy 6 to 7 qts of this and take it with you.( I dont know what the 2.0 volume 5 or 6 spd is).
https://www.cermastore.com/transmission-fluid-automatic.html

Some trans are nore complicated than just draining and filling. My dealer uses a pressure removal, and a pressure fill. Perfection.
 

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Should I just buy the Cerma STM-3 additive stuff?
And im guessing the dealer is the best place to go for it?

My dealers trans service labor was 59.95.

Buy 6 to 7 qts of this and take it with you.( I dont know what the 2.0 volume 5 or 6 spd is).
https://www.cermastore.com/transmission-fluid-automatic.html

Some trans are nore complicated than just draining and filling. My dealer uses a pressure removal, and a pressure fill. Perfection.
Hmm. I wonder if my dealership will charge around the same. They told me it would be $195 for trans service
 

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Hmm. I wonder if my dealership will charge around the same. They told me it would be $195 for trans service

Thats horse ****.

Ask around, Hyundai, if you have a dedicated Genesis dealer. Even a Aamco trans shop.
Yeah. Three different dealerships gave me that price. Just out of curiosity, and not saying I'm gonna listen to it, but what's this I keep hearing about the 2.0t 8speeds being sealed and maiden an even free lol?
 

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Achtung!!

From the same country that brought you the Pzkw VI TIGER, Und der Me 262 Swalllow comes the ZF 8 AT made by ZF Friedrichshafen.

Many consider trans units with no dipsticks or fluid ports "sealed" The point is this company doesnt want you F--king with it. That is NOT to say that it does not need service, or can not be serviced.

The transaxle is a masterpiece, and under "normal" conditions with "normal" people driving the car, a fluid change every 60 is plenty.

***From my Hyundai expert. Hyundai/Genesis do NOT repair these. He in all the time he worked for my dealership never saw but one 8AT come in. They just replaced it. They didnt try and diagnose it, just wham BAM new one (warranty). The problems if any, that have been experienced are largely Hyundai/Gensis TCU tuning issues, NOT hardware issues.

I experienced the cheese dick oem tcu tune, and the lack luster torque converter lock out. Buddy BTRcc got rid of that poo-poo for real!:wink:
Just call around and ask the rate for a ZF trans fluid change where you supply the secret sauce. You need not restrict yourself to Hyundai.
Assume that your first owner was a cheap dumbass, and didnt do it.
 

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From the same country that brought you the Pzkw VI TIGER, Und der Me 262 Swalllow comes the ZF 8 AT made by ZF Friedrichshafen.

Many consider trans units with no dipsticks or fluid ports "sealed" The point is this company doesnt want you F--king with it. That is NOT to say that it does not need service, or can not be serviced.

The transaxle is a masterpiece, and under "normal" conditions with "normal" people driving the car, a fluid change every 60 is plenty.

***From my Hyundai expert. Hyundai/Genesis do NOT repair these. He in all the time he worked for my dealership never saw but one 8AT come in. They just replaced it. They didnt try and diagnose it, just wham BAM new one (warranty). The problems if any, that have been experienced are largely Hyundai/Gensis TCU tuning issues, NOT hardware issues.

I experienced the cheese dick oem tcu tune, and the lack luster torque converter lock out. Buddy BTRcc got rid of that poo-poo for real!<img src="http://www.GenCoupe.com/images/GenCoupe_2014/smilies/tango_face_wink.png" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
Just call around and ask the rate for a ZF trans fluid change where you supply the secret sauce. You need not restrict yourself to Hyundai.
Assume that your first owner was a cheap dumbass, and didnt do it.
So, basically, just get it serviced and ignore the shitty shifting?
 

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So, basically, just get it serviced and ignore the shitty shifting?
Process of eliminination. It could correct it. CERMA AT is famous for that. Do the simple stuff first.

Go to the website there is a video about the AT fluid. It literally can reverse otherwise ruined ATs.
You have nothing to lose. a couple hundred tops, then its fixed or you need a new trans.

What you describe sounds like overdue shitty burnt trans fluid and some corrupted seals,

I am sorry your dealers suck, if you provide the fluid the price should come WAAY down.
 

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So, basically, just get it serviced and ignore the shitty shifting?
Process of eliminination. It could correct it. CERMA AT is famous for that. Do the simple stuff first.

Go to the website there is a video about the AT fluid. It literally can reverse otherwise ruined ATs.
You have nothing to lose. a couple hundred tops, then its fixed or you need a new trans.

What you describe sounds like overdue shitty burnt trans fluid and some corrupted seals,

I am sorry your dealers suck, if you provide the fluid the price should come WAAY down.
Drove the car last night to my step dads to let him drive it warmed up to see what he thinks. He's quite knowledgeable on transmission issues. He told me that he definitely doesn't think it's slipping. He just thinks it is shifting kinda hard when go non-stop in stop-go conditions. He said that he personally doesn't think anything is wrong with it and blames any bit of the hard shifting on the computer. So, I'm starting to think I'm just being OCD about my car again. It is, indeed, the first automatic I have had in like 5 years, so it would make sense of why I am overestimating it. However, as you said, and if the original owner did not have the fluid change, then it needs it anyways, and if the stuff you recommend is that good anyways, what do I have to lose? My last question is, how many quarts do you think I should get? Like I said, I have an 2013 2.0t A/T. I don't know the different transmissions.

Edit: just talked to dealer. They're saying they charge 69.99 if I bring my own fluid. He said that I need to bring 8 quarts though lol. What do you think?
 

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Drove the car last night to my step dads to let him drive it warmed up to see what he thinks. He's quite knowledgeable on transmission issues. He told me that he definitely doesn't think it's slipping. He just thinks it is shifting kinda hard when go non-stop in stop-go conditions. He said that he personally doesn't think anything is wrong with it and blames any bit of the hard shifting on the computer. So, I'm starting to think I'm just being OCD about my car again. It is, indeed, the first automatic I have had in like 5 years, so it would make sense of why I am overestimating it. However, as you said, and if the original owner did not have the fluid change, then it needs it anyways, and if the stuff you recommend is that good anyways, what do I have to lose? My last question is, how many quarts do you think I should get? Like I said, I have an 2013 2.0t A/T. I don't know the different transmissions.

Edit: just talked to dealer. They're saying they charge 69.99 if I bring my own fluid. He said that I need to bring 8 quarts though lol. What do you think?
Perfect, GITER done !
If they say 8 bring 8

Please report back. Get the CERMA AT. Right now there are people reading this saying,...fluid is fluid. I guarantee you will see a major improvement.
 

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Drove the car last night to my step dads to let him drive it warmed up to see what he thinks. He's quite knowledgeable on transmission issues. He told me that he definitely doesn't think it's slipping. He just thinks it is shifting kinda hard when go non-stop in stop-go conditions. He said that he personally doesn't think anything is wrong with it and blames any bit of the hard shifting on the computer. So, I'm starting to think I'm just being OCD about my car again. It is, indeed, the first automatic I have had in like 5 years, so it would make sense of why I am overestimating it. However, as you said, and if the original owner did not have the fluid change, then it needs it anyways, and if the stuff you recommend is that good anyways, what do I have to lose? My last question is, how many quarts do you think I should get? Like I said, I have an 2013 2.0t A/T. I don't know the different transmissions.

Edit: just talked to dealer. They're saying they charge 69.99 if I bring my own fluid. He said that I need to bring 8 quarts though lol. What do you think?
Perfect, GITER done !
If they say 8 bring 8

Please report back. Get the CERMA AT. Right now there are people reading this saying,...fluid is fluid. I guarantee you will see a major improvement.
I definitely will. Also, the 2013 doesn't have the ZF trans, does it?
 
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