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I bought CCC reports for dealer invoice pricing and posted all models of the gencoupe. These reports only give the invoice price so you still need to add tax, license fees etc... Also remember that almost no dealer will give you invoice pricing. A general rule is to mark up 3 to 6% on top of the invoice price as your offer to buy the car.

When calculating final price of the car, add the invoice price + Freight + $204.80 (Other taxes and levies). The tax is then based off of the total amount of the 3 amounts added together.

2.0 Base Manual

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $24,495.00 $23,047.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $26,160.00 $24,712.00

2.0 Base Auto

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $25,995.00 $24,430.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $27,660.00 $26,095.00

2.0 Premium Manual

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $27,495.00 $25,814.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $29,160.00 $27,479.00

2.0 Premium Auto

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $28,995.00 $27,197.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $30,660.00 $28,862.00

2.0 GT

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $30,745.00 $28,833.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $32,410.00 $30,498.00

3.8 Manual

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $32,995.00 $30,603.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $34,660.00 $32,268.00

3.8 Auto

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $34,795.00 $32,262.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $36,460.00 $33,927.00

3.8 Manual w/ Navi

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $34,495.00 $31,985.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $36,160.00 $33,650.00

3.8 Auto w/ Navi

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $36,295.00 $33,654.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $37,960.00 $35,319.00

3.8 gt Manual

Retail Price* Wholesale Price**
Base $36,495.00 $33,850.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $38,160.00 $35,515.00

3.8 gt Auto

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $38,295.00 $35,508.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $39,960.00 $37,173.00
 

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Thanks for that!

Guess me and the dealer about split it down the middle on my 2.0 Premium. Fair enough!
 

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Hey!
Thanks Alot COWCOW

This is very useful stuff!

But I just wanted to ask, since its probably the same for all the models, can you post the incentives that are attached as well?

I believe theres a 1000 factory to dealership rebate going on... anything else?

Thanks COWCOW

I think we all really appreciate this
 

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Hey!
Thanks Alot COWCOW

This is very useful stuff!

But I just wanted to ask, since its probably the same for all the models, can you post the incentives that are attached as well?

I believe theres a 1000 factory to dealership rebate going on... anything else?

Thanks COWCOW

I think we all really appreciate this
The $1000 dollar invoice is only if you pay cash. The other 2 incentives are the grad rebate ($500) and clean air rebate ($500). You can read about it on the hyundai site. If anything changes tomorrow (June) I will post it.

Sweet, got mine for 160 dollars under invoice lol
I went to Thornhill Hyundai to negotiate and was shut down on the price so I walked. I told him I knew someone who picked up a 3.8gt for $38000 all in from Richmond Hill Hyundai and he said that it was impossible and most likely the salesman got fired. Oh well, time to shop at another dealer.

At least i finally got to test drive a genesis coupe although it was a 2.0t auto. :( Still alot better than the family cars though :) I finally understand all the rave reviews on this car.
 

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Discussion Starter #7 (Edited)
June 2010

Invoice prices have not changed.
$4500 discount (2.0t base manual) when paying with cash
$3000 discount (all other models) when paying with cash
0% financing for up to 60 months
 

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cowcow,

New member, near purchase!

You mentioned you had connections, any info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks for the CCC. That should help. According to your info and for a 3.8 GT with Nav (none have it here at the local dealership, which means they will have to ship it in), I should ask for about 3 - 6% over 33, 850.

$34, 500 is a reasonable start?

Thanks!!
 

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You got a PM.

cowcow,

New member, near purchase!

You mentioned you had connections, any info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks for the CCC. That should help. According to your info and for a 3.8 GT with Nav (none have it here at the local dealership, which means they will have to ship it in), I should ask for about 3 - 6% over 33, 850.

$34, 500 is a reasonable start?

Thanks!!
 

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Wow, great stuff!

I'm going to stay and contribute to this site now, thanks!

Is there a new thread to post newbie questions on?
 

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Wow, great stuff!

I'm going to stay and contribute to this site now, thanks!

Is there a new thread to post newbie questions on?
If it's just a general question, then ask it in the general discussion or in one of the sub forums (engine etc.) if it relates to it. Also try to search for the answer first since it may already be somewhere on the forums.

Also, the prices I quoted you include freight and A/C tax.
 

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Ya, thanks for all the help.

To be honest, the PM did confuse me since it is higher than the prices you listed above! The $34 500 starting offer now looks low in comparison! I'm going to try the local dealer monday and see what they say first.

The CCC reports there aren't even a month old. $36 000 should be a reasonable starting point (invoice + freight + $500 or so) but you did suggest a different price and had the 3.8 GT with Auto higher than the Manual?

Okay, now I understand your pm. You just mixed up the manual with auto price. Thanks for the help!
 

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I am very excited you guys.

I am going to close the deal next week on the 2.0t gen coupe.

I will post my actual excursion on how I got to the deal once I finailze it.

I think its pretty sweet.
 

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$34 300 (with freight and ac tax) is what I got him to do for a 3.8 Manual w/ Navigation.

It's reasonable I think.
 

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$34 300 (with freight and ac tax) is what I got him to do for a 3.8 Manual w/ Navigation.

It's reasonable I think.
The contact I PMed you with can get you a lower price. I got my car for $300 over invoice. He's also the sales manager of the dealership.
 

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I know.

I feel bad now. I talked them into a reasonable price but left because they jumped at it. Am I willing to go to the contact for a savings of $250? (I estimate I got $750 over invoice and your contact will want $500 over invoice)

From where I live to downtown TO is a hassel. Plus, hopefully I can get this guy to throw in something right?

I do appreciate all the help. I'm in a pickle!! Save more money by being an a-hole or go back tomorrow???
 

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Sorry Shao,

But I don't think that going to another dealership if someone offers a better price is being an A-Hole.

These sales guys are very adept at what they do. Notice how they never offer you their price, they always ask you what you are looking to save or "how much do you want off".

They try to make it seem like you trying to save money is somehow dishonest. One dealer actually said "what you looking to save? what? 10 bucks?"

I asked him if he would give me $10 for no reason from his wallet. Same thing... money is money.

They're not being honest with you either.

And plus, you're not hurting them in any way. $500 bucks is a lot of money. And i bet you it will not only be the contact that cow cow gave you that can save you money.

Just try it and you'll see. There will be plenty of dealerships that are willing to have your business without making you feel guilty


Oh.. and as an aside. I shopped around for 3 weeks, I went from paying 800 bucks over invoice (some will say its a deal) to getting BELOW invoice by $50 cus they are trying to move the cars. You HAVE to speak with other dealerships. Just ask them simple question "can you beat it" and thats all.
 
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