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What you guys think about KONIG COMPANY?

MILLIGRAM BLACK

Decided to go with this rim then Enkei T fork.

YOu see that spokes , you think thats weak or strong?the spokes are pretty thin.... anyways, tell me your opinion.

and i am planning to stay with 18X8.5 all around with 225/45 and 245/45.
its good spec?

and should i get the Milligram or this link here...

ILLUSION

This,, very Similar but what looks more aggressive?? i have nord grey.
 

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Gold Milligram

What you guys think about KONIG COMPANY?
YOu see that spokes , you think thats weak or strong?the spokes are pretty thin....
anyways, tell me your opinion.
and i am planning to stay with 18X8.5 all around with
225/45 and 245/45. its good spec? I have nord grey.
The Koenig Milligram look good to me. > More Aggressive!!
The spokes are plenty strong and make the wheel light.
You should get 8.5" Front and 9.5" Rear so the stretch on the tires will be the same.
KONIG MILLIGRAM 18X8.5 5X114.3 ET30 Gold/Machine Undercut $214.80
KONIG MILLIGRAM 18X9.5 5X114.3 ET25 Gold/Machine Undercut $220.50
It will be easier to add bigger tires later, if you want.
These will fit good and if you decide to move them out more, you can get spacers later.
I think the gold would look good on Nord Grey.:p
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The Koenig Milligram look good to me. > More Aggressive!!
The spokes are plenty strong and make the wheel light.
You should get 8.5" Front and 9.5" Rear so the stretch on the tires will be the same.
KONIG MILLIGRAM 18X8.5 5X114.3 ET30 Gold/Machine Undercut $214.80
KONIG MILLIGRAM 18X9.5 5X114.3 ET25 Gold/Machine Undercut $220.50
It will be easier to add bigger tires later, if you want.
These will fit good and if you decide to move them out more, you can get spacers later.
I think the gold would look good on Nord Grey.:p
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Well, not a fan of gold rims. not feeling it. although some pix looks nice. but still yea...
anyways, yea, the guy recommened that size. 18x8.5 and 9.5 in the rear,
by the way, whats the decent performance tire i should get? at the same time, i want all SEASON. with the PERFORMANCE Tire,
 

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anyways, yea, the guy recommened that size. 18x8.5 and 9.5 in the rear,
by the way, whats the decent performance tire I should get? at the same time,
I want all SEASON. with the PERFORMANCE Tire,
:D
Milligrams also come in silver and matte black.
Continental Extreme Contact DWS
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus
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KONIG MILLIGRAM 18X8.5 5X114.3 ET30 Gold/Machine Undercut $214.80
KONIG MILLIGRAM 18X9.5 5X114.3 ET25 Gold/Machine Undercut $220.50
This will look great. Not sure about color on a nord grey, all three could look pretty good. But this setup up above will be slightly wider all the way around the car, but not so wide that you're having to stretch out your tires and run crazy camber. Should be good.
 

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This will look great. Not sure about color on a nord grey, all three could look pretty good. But this setup up above will be slightly wider all the way around the car, but not so wide that you're having to stretch out your tires and run crazy camber. Should be good.
Wait, can you explain to me more about thr stretching?? I dont understand..
You sayin my set spec size is kind of off???

And the two link i put, it dOesnt match nord grey????
 

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If you're gonna go wider, might as well go with a wider tire with more grip and sidewall. As far as tires go, My current faves are:
Nitto Invo- 245-45ZR18 Just got some of these and for the money you can't beat it. I've been beating these tires to death for the past week, in the wet and the dry, and so far they have held up like champs. No complaints.
Conti DWS-'' Same as above just more expensive, little bit harsher ride, and last a pretty long time.
Pilot Sport A/S Plus. '' Midway between the two.
 

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No... I was saying those sizes are good. Stretch means the width of the tire is less than the width of the wheel, so the tire looks like /```\ everything pitches out to match the width of the wheel. If the wheel and tire are matched it would be |```|, and if the tire is bulging it will be \```/

A 9.5 inch wheel is 9.5in * 25.4mm per in = 241.3mm

With a 245 rear wheel, 245mm is almost the same as 241mm so the tires should be nice and straight up and down. Its a perfectly matched up wheel/tire. 8.5in = 216mm, compared to your 225mm tire. This will technically be "bulging" but not to a point I think you'll notice, because the tire is only 4.5mm wider per side, which is less than a quarter inch, visually you probably wont see this.

Are you transferring your stock tires? I could've sworn the stock tires for 18" wheels were 40 series, so with 45 series tires, you'll have slightly taller tires. I'm not as schooled up on 18 inch wheels as mine came with the 19's and I've never looked into 18" wheels, but the tire widths are pretty much the same.

Oh, and I've ordered continental extreme contact DWS's, they are the highest rated performance all season tire on tirerack.com, with lots of user reviews, and even a few users here reporting good things about them.
 

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Nice looking wheels.
 

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And the two link I put, it doesn't match nord grey????
You sayin my set spec size is kind of off ???
Wait, can you explain to me more about the stretching??
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No, He doesn't think gold is a good color on Nord Grey.
8.5 F and 9.5 R are great sizes.
The tire size you get for them will determine the stretch.
Tire stretch is the ratio of rim width to tire section width.
Stock 18" wheels are: F225/45 R245/45 The stretch is:
F 7.5" = 190mm 225 section width = 190/225 = .844
R 8.0" = 203mm 245 section width = 203/245 = .829
A higher ratio means the rim is wider which will stretch the tire.
Stock 19" wheels are: F225/40 R245/40 The stretch is:
F 8.0" = 203/225 = .903
R 8.5" = 216/245 = .881
If you get Milligram 8.5 and 9.5 the best tire size is:
F 8.5 - 245/40/18 = .881
R 9.5 - 275/40/18 = .876
^^^ that stretch would be the same as 19" Track
If you wanted more stretch you would want more narrow tires.
F 8.5/225/18 = .960
R 9.5/245/18 = .984
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
cool ~ guys. thanks you for alot of infos~started to understand the tires and rims. which is good thing. k

SO ,now all i have to do is choose between MILIGRAM OR ILLUSION.
It my choice , but want some honest opinion that match my nord grey color.
If you can please tell me which one you would go for, THANK U~~~

AND BTW, STOCK TIRES SUCK AS BAL~ after the snow, i burned out alot... which is bad. again STOCK TIRE SUCKS . already worning out guys...
 

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No, He doesn't think gold is a good color on Nord Grey.
8.5 F and 9.5 R are great sizes.
The tire size you get for them will determine the stretch.
Tire stretch is the ratio of rim width to tire section width.
Stock 18" wheels are: F225/45 R245/45 The stretch is:
F 7.5" = 190mm 225 section width = 190/225 = .844
R 8.0" = 203mm 245 section width = 203/245 = .829
A higher ratio means the rim is wider which will stretch the tire.
Stock 19" wheels are: F225/40 R245/40 The stretch is:
F 8.0" = 203/225 = .903
R 8.5" = 216/245 = .881
If you get Milligram 8.5 and 9.5 the best tire size is:
F 8.5 - 245/40/18 = .881
R 9.5 - 275/40/18 = .876
^^^ that stretch would be the same as 19" Track
If you wanted more stretch you would want more narrow tires.
F 8.5/225/18 = .960
R 9.5/245/18 = .984
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I've always thought your numbers were backwards :D Technically they're not backwards if they make sense to you, but if you flipped the numbers, then anything less than 1 is stretched, and anything over 1 is bulged, and 1.0 is a perfect match. To me this makes more sense, but like I said, its up to what makes sense in your head.
 

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Point of Reference?

I've always thought your numbers were backwards :D Technically they're not backwards if they make sense to you, but if you flipped the numbers, then anything less than 1 is stretched, and anything over 1 is bulged, and 1.0 is a perfect match. To me this makes more sense, but like I said, its up to what makes sense in your head.
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You are correct > the ratio can be calculated either way.
They both make sense to me > cause my head is always spinning.:eek:
I was the first to even mention the ratio as a guide and
so I chose to show when the rim gets wider the tire is more stretched.:p
I was trying to indicate stretch not bulge cause few viewers want bulge.
Notwithstanding the girls!:rofl:
 

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BTW, drunkenT, you actually might have stumbled on a great wheel, especially for people who track the car or want a smaller 18" wheel. Seems these things are about 20lbs each, which is very light. I found this Z:

My New Konig Milligrams - MY350Z.COM Forums

And I actually kind like the gold wheels... I've seen bronze on gray look good, and I like that the gold wheels make that lip with all the words stand out less:
MILLIGRAM GOLD
 

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Alright guys, waiting for my Sexy Mili RIm~
(cant wait//)

but, i canceled the new tires, want to use my oem tire.
Have a question, I know its okay to use oem tire over new rims, but is it okay to put the stock rear tire in to 18x9.5?
 

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Last time I looked at them, milligrams weren't offered in lower offsets like these are now apparently..

That's how I ended up with my LACEs, which were also very light.
 

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but, i canceled the new tires, want to use my oem tire.
Have a question, I know its okay to use oem tire over new rims, but is it okay to put the stock rear tire in to 18x9.5?
Yes, as described in the math above, your tire stretch will be similar to a factory TRACK model setup, which is fine.

You also have the option of going wider if you want more grip, up to 285.
(I ran 295 on the same spec wheel, it fit but BARELY, I wouldn't recommend it)
This isn't really necessary until you start putting out more power though.

The tires recommended above are all excellent choices, but if you're going to drive in the snow, I'll point you to a little-known company called NOKIAN. :)
 

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kk lmao~
AI, should be good. Isnt OEM Rearsize 8.5, and can be stretched till 9.0.
but yea. should be good right?? k
 

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OEM 18 rim is 8inch in the rear, 9.5 will be fine though.
 
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