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My Parts Shop Max coilover kit just arrived!

I have not actually installed it yet, but I will be doing a complete writeup and install guide for you guys soon, within the next week.

I have to at least start out by saying that Parts Shop Max so far, has been an absolute pleasure to work with. [email protected] has been excellent about answering all of my questions, and he shipped my kit out ultra fast! I believe I got it in 3 business days. I definitely would do business with them again.

All I can say so far about the PBM coilovers is ... wow.. they are the most beautiful car parts I have ever laid eyes on! I actually feel guilty just owning them, they are too good for the likes of me LOL. I feel like a bad person just knowing these are going under my car, and will be filthy within a month. There really is nothing else that looks like these. The build quality is also superb! The lower shock mounting brackets are probably the best constructed I have ever seen.Seriously beefy!

I love the front top hats, you can adjust them in multiple ways - all other coilover kits for the genesis don't offer any type of caster adjustment, the PBM's can be configured to adjust either camber, caster, or both simultaneously. They also have -2 degrees camber built into the shock body.

The real star of the show though, is the true rear coilovers. I can't wait to try these out!

Anyway, until I install these, enjoy some pics!










































That's it for now guys, I'll be back in a few days with a big update!!


PART 2 - PREINSTALL
 

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Nice. Your mention negative camber already built in, meaning you can't go positive from -2 anymore?


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Nice. Your mention negative camber already built in, meaning you can't go positive from -2 anymore?


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That's what I understand from he description of them from the Parts Shop Max website

Unique Features:
~ Super Light Linear Spring
~ CNC aluminum components double coated with pure copper, sealed with clear urethane
~ Pillowball uppers front and rear (teflon lined maintenance free)
~ Pillowball lower mounts (except Z33)
~ Fine damper threads to resist loosening
~ Rebound Infinitely adjustable with 12 click tactile feedback knob.
~ Damping has more adjustability all on the soft end of the range to compliment the swift springs and big traction on high power cars.
~ Camber AND CASTER adjustable front upper mount
~ 2 Degrees of negative camber built into lower mount
~ Lifetime warranty against manufacturer defect

However with SPC or RSpec camber bolts, you will be able to get back near 0 degrees camber. You would never want to though, you need -2 to -3 degees front camber for this car since it gains positive camber up front under load , that way you will be around 0 degrees when the front left or right suspension is fully loaded up into a corner. You definitely need more negative camber if you're going lower than stock suspension.

The top hat plate can also be turned so you can adjust camber, caster, or camber+caster. From what my research has gathered, pulling back the caster will yield very positive results for this platform. The car has something like +7 degrees caster up front, which is fairly excessive. The more of that you get rid of, the better the front end will feel. I can't wait to try that particular feature out!
 

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I look forward to your install then. My choice in coilovers may rest on your review. My main concern is ease of install and tuning. I won't be the one installing this but my neighbor and I don't want to be changing settings all the time unless its something I can do myself without getting underneath the car. If I can better understand what to adjust and how it adjusts it would make it easier to explain to him what I want. Preload and how ride height is adjusted is confusing to me and this added caster adjustment just adds to the confusion.
 

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About the Caster. We actually filed down the strut tower bar holes so I could adjust Caster on my car when getting it aligned lol. Simple solution but it worked..

Looking forward to installed pics!
 

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Look forward to hearing more input on these. I am on the fence.

Do they require oem camber bolts? (coming from base suspension)
 

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Nice. Your mention negative camber already built in, meaning you can't go positive from -2 anymore?
That's what I understand from he description of them from the Parts Shop Max website
I believe that means you can adjust it from approximately zero to -2 by loosening those 2 bolts and pushing the knuckle in and out with the elongated top hole. I can get quite a bit of camber that way with the KWs.
 

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the day I got mine...

i know how you feel. haha
 

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I believe that means you can adjust it from approximately zero to -2 by loosening those 2 bolts and pushing the knuckle in and out with the elongated top hole. I can get quite a bit of camber that way with the KWs.
I don't think that is the case , again notice what they say in the product description I posted above:

Unique Features:

~ Camber AND CASTER adjustable front upper mount
~ 2 Degrees of negative camber built into lower mount
Clearly they say the -2 degrees is built into the lower mount. I'm not sure if that means front, rear, or both front and rear. I believe it is different than the camber adjustability on the top hat.
 

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I look forward to your install then. My choice in coilovers may rest on your review. My main concern is ease of install and tuning. I won't be the one installing this but my neighbor and I don't want to be changing settings all the time unless its something I can do myself without getting underneath the car. If I can better understand what to adjust and how it adjusts it would make it easier to explain to him what I want. Preload and how ride height is adjusted is confusing to me and this added caster adjustment just adds to the confusion.

The good thing about this kit, is that the rears are as easy to adjust as the fronts. I'm not sure about adjusting the rear damping yet, the adjustment knob is on top of the shock, which is a pain in the ass place since it typically means pulling the shock out every time you want to adjust the damping. (this is not unique to PSM though, at least half of the coilover kits for the genesis are the same way, including the shitty ISC's ). Parts Shop Max does include a set of extended adjuster knobs, which I assume are for the rear- I might drill some holes above the rear upper shock mounts, from inside the trunk, and install the extended damping adjustment knobs that way ( accessible through the trunk for quick adjusting ). Front/rear ride height, front/rear preload, and front damping, should be a cake walk to adjust in this car. The rears are definitely going to be significantly quicker and easier to adjust than any set with a separate rear shock and spring, that was why I got this set to begin with ( that , and the caster adjustment, is what pushed me over the edge to buying this set). I honestly found the whole process of adjusting the separate rears on my ISC's to be frustrating and tedious after the first dozen or so times, and it's something you definitely have to do several times to get it right, and most people never get it right. I feel bad for people that don't do their own labor, and have to pay shops over and over and over to get their coilovers adjusted and dialed in properly, post initial installation. If you are in that boat, the non skilled mechanic type, this Parts Shop Max kit is perfect , because adjusting is going to take 90% less time, and the installation time for the rears is going to be half the labor charge compared to the other coilovers out there, due to being one, pre-assembled unit, preload already set, and all you have to worry about is the ride height and damping setting.
 

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Looks good, eagerly awaiting another one of your detailed reviews. I'm interested in seeing how the caster adjustments work and how it affects handling.
 

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Oh yah, I forgot to mention, THIS KIT NOT COME WITH ENDLINKS. You need 2010 front Endlinks for this kit. I looked around the net for upgraded replacement endlinks , and the best looking ones I could find are made by MOOG, and you can buy them from Rock Auto. They look way beefier than stock and have all metal internals ( as opposed to other brands which can have some plastic\polymer inside )

I'll post some pics of those later tonight
 

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correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read on PBM site that the coilover are coated in copper and spring are gold plated....that's sick and unlike other coilovers....I remember when I got ARK coilovers...they were painted...not powder coated....fail
 

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I don't think that is the case , again notice what they say in the product description I posted above:



Clearly they say the -2 degrees is built into the lower mount. I'm not sure if that means front, rear, or both front and rear. I believe it is different than the camber adjustability on the top hat.
I'm not talking about the top hat. Look at the lower mount on the PBM coils, then look at the holes in the lower mount of the factory front suspension. The top hole is oval shaped instead of round. This is so you can have more camber adjustment there than you could get with an eccentric bolt.
 

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You are going to love these. I went drifting with them for the 1st time with 1320drift and Benedict. So much more confidence on the car and the handling was stunning. I was laughing at the drift day because I going in at high speeds at 3rd gear and pulling massive angle and a few times at full lock with these coils. You get so much feed back from them. Made drifting a whole lot easier and fun as hell.
 

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I'm not talking about the top hat. Look at the lower mount on the PBM coils, then look at the holes in the lower mount of the factory front suspension. The top hole is oval shaped instead of round. This is so you can have more camber adjustment there than you could get with an eccentric bolt.
Sorry you are correct, I misunderstood what you originally said. You are definitely right.
 

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You are going to love these. I went drifting with them for the 1st time with 1320drift and Benedict. So much more confidence on the car and the handling was stunning. I was laughing at the drift day because I going in at high speeds at 3rd gear and pulling massive angle and a few times at full lock with these coils. You get so much feed back from them. Made drifting a whole lot easier and fun as hell.
Hey since you have a lot of experience with these, can you post up more information about the correct way to set up the top hat for maximum negative caster? Definitely looking forward to any feedback you can provide!
 

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correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read on PBM site that the coilover are coated in copper and spring are gold plated....that's sick and unlike other coilovers....I remember when I got ARK coilovers...they were painted...not powder coated....fail
Yes my ISC's ( and every other coilover I have ever owned ) have also been painted and not powder coated. Teins, bilsteins, H&R's, etc are all painted.

I am sure the copper powder coating will hold up well, but I worry about the gold plated springs. I have never seen anything gold plated that did not start chipping off after a while.

What's much more important than the gold finish of the springs, is the fact that they are SWIFT SPRINGS!!!



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