Please Help...just installed pro kit

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Nosaj

Discussion Starter · Feb 5, 2011

and the steering in CRAZY loose and unpredictable. Every little bump,dip and manhole cover sends the car into an uncontrolable wobble. Its not really a swerve but the momentum of the car carries it into a verrry dangerous swerve. Steering wheel is tight and theres no unusual sounds/vibration but even while going staright, the car is very loose. Best way to describe would be like driving through a hurricane with the winds forcing the car left and right, even with the steering wheel straight. I have to ease the car into a simple lane change so i dont lose control. Also as soon as i turned the car on to test drive, the ABS and traction control lights came on. My 30 minute drive home was verrry scary: no abs, no traction control, pouring down rain, and a car with a mind of its own.

The front of the rear tires are cocked inwards with the back of the rears sticking out. It feels like all 4 wheels are pointing a different direction as i dont really control the car, i just react to whatever it does. I didnt do the install myself but had a buddy do it. I know there was plenty of hammering and force used to get some of the bolts to line up so that might have screwed things up. Ive driven cars after a drop and before the alignment but none have felt as loose as this.

Thanks for taking the time to read and PLEASE advise.

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GC-SD

· #2 · Feb 5, 2011 (Edited)

I'd take it to a shop asap! Sounds like your buddy really messed things up...he definately didn't put it back together correctly since your wheels are not straight. Oh ya, I wouldn't even drive it the shop...get it towed. I've done lower springs myself on my old mustang cobra, and there wasn't really much that you could screw up...looks like he took some things apart and couldn't remember how to put them back together right. I know not much help, but sounds too dangerous to bring it on the road again. Some may say bring it back to your buddy, but after what he did, I wouldn't!

Edit: Oh ya, you need to take what's in your signature and tell your buddy that!

newmedia

· #3 · Feb 5, 2011

wheel alignment ?

Nosaj

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 5, 2011

GC-SD said:
I'd take it to a shop asap! Sounds like your buddy really messed things up...he definately didn't put it back together correctly since your wheels are not straight. Oh ya, I wouldn't even drive it the shop...get it towed. I've done lower springs myself on my old mustang cobra, and there wasn't really much that you could screw up...looks like he took some things apart and couldn't remember how to put them back together right. I know not much help, but sounds too dangerous to bring it on the road again. Some may say bring it back to your buddy, but after what he did, I wouldn't!

He does quality work, used to own his own shop before the economy went to sh*t. I let him read up on the DIY on this site. Not sure if he followed it but he used it for reference. And of course he's never worked on a coupe

newmedia said:
wheel alignment ?

Yes alignment for sure. I'd need one anyway. But that wouldnt fix the abs and traction control lights

newmedia

· #5 · Feb 5, 2011

can not help you much since I paid NTB to install shocks and spring for My GC. I paid them more than if I shop around but I liked the fact their shop was clean and had nice equipments for the job.

All I know is the back takes longer , more nuts to be removed because of multi link suspension system than front.

Good luck and hope its just a alignment ...

elementrider87

· #6 · Feb 5, 2011

dang man that sounds crazy, ive installed springs before and like the other guy said there isnt much to mess up..take the wheels off....take out springs....reverse order and put back together. did he do it for free or did you pay him?

Super Steve

· #7 · Feb 5, 2011

Good grief, this guy must gave forgotten to tighten either the tower or the knuckle bolts. Dude there are bolts on the top of the front struts, make sure they are tight; both sides. Jack up the front, remove the wheels and check the two strut bolts and make sure they are tight. Sounds like loose bolts and a really bad alignment. Next jack the rear, remove rims and check all the bolts associated with the rear suspension. Then, if all is tight, find a good alignment shop and carefully drive your car there and get a alignment. Sounds like you have some serious toe and caster issues which will trip TC sensors... Be careful dude

cfyella

· #8 · Feb 5, 2011

Nosaj said:
He does quality work, used to own his own shop before the economy went to sh*t. I let him read up on the DIY on this site. Not sure if he followed it but he used it for reference. And of course he's never worked on a coupe

Apparently he doesn't do quality work if he has to bang on stuff to get bolts to line up. Every single bolt should line up exactly how you took it off. There's definitely something that he didn't tighten down.

ksmith5rs

· #9 · Feb 6, 2011

Obviously not quality work or you would not be posting. get it to a shop asap!

Phatdhad

· #10 · Feb 6, 2011

wheel alignment!!!
you HAVE to have one of these if you lower the car.
take it to a shop and get it aligned.

see how it runs after that.....

mmrp81

· #11 · Feb 6, 2011

Springs are straight forward. Doesn't sound like quality work to me.

rspectx

· #12 · Feb 6, 2011

^x2!

Nosaj

Discussion Starter · #13 · Feb 6, 2011

Yes, I know I need to 'take it to the shop'. I already tried and nobody will even touch it. Its a 2011 and everywhere I've gone says they don't have alignment specs for any 2011 cars yet. One place looked at it and said everything was good but I just have bad toe. Rear wheels toe in and front wheels toe out.

I already planned to take it in but was just wondering if anybody had similar issues

RSpec-Coupe

· #14 · Feb 6, 2011

Nosaj said:
Yes, I know I need to 'take it to the shop'. I already tried and nobody will even touch it. Its a 2011 and everywhere I've gone says they don't have alignment specs for any 2011 cars yet. One place looked at it and said everything was good but I just have bad toe. Rear wheels toe in and front wheels toe out.

I already planned to take it in but was just wondering if anybody had similar issues

I installed Sportlines on my 2011 about 2 and a half weeks ago now with no issues. How did this shop do the install? Sounds like they totally jacked something up.

Nosaj

Discussion Starter · #15 · Feb 7, 2011

It was a buddy of mine. He didn't go by the diy on the forum, just refrenced it. From what I know the front went fine but he had problems with the rear. He took out 3 bolts from each side, not sure which ones but one of them had the camber settings and the other 2 were not in the diy. The y looked like the held the entire wheel assembly to the car.

I'm honestly not worried. I pretty sure he just knocked the alignment all out of wack. From what I've researched, bad toe can cause steering wander and bump steer, which is exactly what I have. There's no unusual sounds or vibrations or anything. The only thing that gets me are the abs and esc lights are on. I guess if the alignment was really jacked up they would come on :dunno:

Master Vu

· #16 · Feb 7, 2011

you need an alignment! that should help, but just springs is gonna give you a kinda bouncey ride quality when you hit bumps and dips in the road especially at speed, because your depressing the stock shock assembly and it only wants to straighten back out to normal when gravity and room allows it.

Nosaj

Discussion Starter · #17 · Feb 7, 2011

Ride is not bouncy at all, really close to stock and just a tad stiffer. Bump steer is not usually a problem with rwd cars but it would make sense to have bump steer with bad toe settings.

The worse thing about all this would be have to take it to the dealer since no shops have alignment specs for 2011 cars. But I guess I would have to do it anyway even if I didn't have these issues.

ManOnFire

· #18 · Feb 7, 2011

Nosaj said:
Ride is not bouncy at all, really close to stock and just a tad stiffer. Bump steer is not usually a problem with rwd cars but it would make sense to have bump steer with bad toe settings.

The worse thing about all this would be have to take it to the dealer since no shops have alignment specs for 2011 cars. But I guess I would have to do it anyway even if I didn't have these issues.

Would the specs be any different from the '10? Was there a change in the suspension between '10 and '11?

Maybe someone here who works at a dealership could look up the '11 specs for you and you could bring those specs wherever you liked?

Someone posted the '10 OEM specs in another thread...
OEM
Camber: Front -.5 L&R / Rear -1.5 L&R
Toe: Front .14 L&R / Rear .08 L&R

Taken from this thread...http://www.gencoupe.com/suspension/48122-constant-problems-pulling-right-new-gc-3.html post #55.

Nosaj

Discussion Starter · #19 · Feb 7, 2011

Thats what i was thinking and even mentioned to one of the shops. They said their specs only go up to 2009 and i told them this car was in production in 2009 but they wouldnt know if it changed or not with nothing to measure againts. I told them i could find the specs online, but they still wont touch it without some "official" specs.

Honestly, after some of the reactions i got, i'd feel more comfortable going to the dealer. NOBODY even knew what the hell the car was. One idiot thought it was a bently...wtf. Though in my experience, the techs at the dealer are no more qualified to work on this car than the average joe

jaydenaphillips

· #20 · Feb 7, 2011

The 2011 specs are:

Genesis Coupe 2011
(BK) Front Rear
Camber -0.5 ± 0.5° -1.5 ± 0.5°
Caster 7.45 ± 0.5°
Toe, total 0.28 ± 0.16° 0.16 ± 0.2°
Toe, individual 0.14 ± 0.08° 0.08 ± 0.1°

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