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-FlyRyde Brandon
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how hard is the install?

im looking to get one but dont know which to get.. i like
the tic nob-
The TiC knob - Hyundai Genesis Coupe

but should i just get that short shifter too and the bushings? what would you guys recommend. I want that nob for sure tho just want to know some info.

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how hard is the install?

im looking to get one but dont know which to get.. i like
the tic nob-
The TiC knob - Hyundai Genesis Coupe

but should i just get that short shifter too and the bushings? what would you guys recommend. I want that nob for sure tho just want to know some info.

thanks

The install is not terrible, but difficult enough that you should set aside a few hours. I would rate it a 2 out of 5 with 5 being most difficult. You will need to a jack & some jack stands since you have to remove the shifter from below after the exhaust & drive shaft are out of the way.

I've got the TiC short shift lever, front shifter bushings & knob. I love the difference they made regarding gear engagement. The bushings alone will make a noticeable difference. I recommend doing all 3 even if you decide to only use the TiC shifter & bushings while using another shifter.
 

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-FlyRyde Brandon
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ah thanks for the reply. It's pretty much gonna be that way with all the short shifters out there huh? and also how do you like it? big difference?
 

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Actually very easy to change the shifter without removing the drive shaft. Takes about one hour if done on a lift. The stock throw is already fairly short. I have the TWM shifter, and yes the throw is shorter, with better feel.
 

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ah thanks for the reply. It's pretty much gonna be that way with all the short shifters out there huh? and also how do you like it? big difference?
All of the short shifters install the same way from underneath & yes you can do it w/o removing the driveshaft or heat shield, but I chose to remove both to make access easier. Since I have the tools & ability, I usually remove anything that may make my job harder since it usually takes less time to just remove the obstacle.

I love it, the engagement is smoother & more precise. I actually installed the shifter bushings 1st, then went back later & installed the shifter. To be honest, the shifter bushings by themselves make as much a difference in shift feel as the shifter does.
 

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Pfft, removing things. This is where being short/small-framed has it's advantages. Since I have the hands of a 14 year old girl I can install most things without problem. Installed my sarona grill in 15 mins w/o removing the bumper.

Back on topic, so out of the 3 avail short shifts (ralco/TiC/TWM) which one would you guys recommend the most? I know the TWM is twice the price of either of the other two but I'm willing to plunk down on quality if it's better than the others.
 

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i would say go with TWM..i have one and i like it...feels very good
 

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The install is not terrible, but difficult enough that you should set aside a few hours. I would rate it a 2 out of 5 with 5 being most difficult. You will need to a jack & some jack stands since you have to remove the shifter from below after the exhaust & drive shaft are out of the way.

I've got the TiC short shift lever, front shifter bushings & knob. I love the difference they made regarding gear engagement. The bushings alone will make a noticeable difference. I recommend doing all 3 even if you decide to only use the TiC shifter & bushings while using another shifter.
^This. I did all three at the same time....(giggity)....and it's a big difference. I also upgraded my fluid to Redline MT-85 75W85 GL-4 Gear Oil. HUGE difference.
 

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looks like it'll be twm shifter, TiC bushings, redline MT85 (since winter sucks, today is -25*C for example) and the shift knob is gonna take sommore searching, I'm picky as all hell.
 

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looks like it'll be twm shifter, TiC bushings, redline MT85 (since winter sucks, today is -25*C for example) and the shift knob is gonna take sommore searching, I'm picky as all hell.
This thread has pretty much everything you need to know in terms of short shifters...check it out and feel free to comment!

http://www.gencoupe.com/engine/53067-birth-short-shifter-twm-performance-explains-how-came.html

As for shift knobs, you may want to check ours out. We have multiple designs and colors and all of our shift knobs are weighted and made of 100% stainless steel. On top of that, we're the only manufacturer to have a height adjustable shift knob that threads on with no cheap set screws. Finishes are guaranteed for life and the quality is unparalleled.

Shift Knobs & Gear Knobs by TWM Performance Shift Knobs & Gear Knobs

Patrick
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Yea I saw the picture of the TIC shifter from their own website and that pretty much decided it for me:



Here's the TWM compared to the others:

 

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Yea I saw the picture of the TIC shifter from their own website and that pretty much decided it for me:



Here's the TWM compared to the others:

Yea,the TWM by far looks like the highest quality. It does cost more but the difference of $100 for the TWM seems more than worth if for something as critical to the feel of driving your car as the shifter does.
 

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I have the TiC shift knob and love it. It fits my hand perfectly and its smooth but the finish wont let it slip out of your hand. Also the weight is nice. I'm looking at doing the shift knob and bushings upgrade after I track the car a few times to really see if I need it or not.
 

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Yea,the TWM by far looks like the highest quality. It does cost more but the difference of $100 for the TWM seems more than worth if for something as critical to the feel of driving your car as the shifter does.
It is indeed a critical part of the driving experience, hence why we produce nothing but the best. Like everything, it's worth it in the long run to get the best quality available!

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It is indeed a critical part of the driving experience, hence why we produce nothing but the best. Like everything, it's worth it in the long run to get the best quality available!

Frank
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I can't see swapping to your current shifter offering at this point, but I am interested in the shifter you are testing on the Porsche you posted on the other site. Will that design make its way to our vehicles?

& if it might, any clue on round about pricing? :dunno:

I will be purchasing one of your shift extenders in the not to distant future though. ;)

Thanks in advance & sorry about the thread jack OP.
 

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The design of the Porsche is completely different. It's a cable actuated shifter as compared to the solid shift rod in the Genesis. Designing a shifter with the same idea for the Genesis (create more space between pivot points to shorten the throw that much and bring the shifter up and closer to the steering wheel) would have to be a completely different design and so far there is not really a demand for such a product.

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The design of the Porsche is completely different. It's a cable actuated shifter as compared to the solid shift rod in the Genesis. Designing a shifter with the same idea for the Genesis (create more space between pivot points to shorten the throw that much and bring the shifter up and closer to the steering wheel) would have to be a completely different design and so far there is not really a demand for such a product.

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Frank
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Thanks for response, that is one sick shifter you guys are putting in that car.
 

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The design of the Porsche is completely different. It's a cable actuated shifter as compared to the solid shift rod in the Genesis. Designing a shifter with the same idea for the Genesis (create more space between pivot points to shorten the throw that much and bring the shifter up and closer to the steering wheel) would have to be a completely different design and so far there is not really a demand for such a product.

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Frank
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^^ Maybe not..but a Shorter throw shifter with stock height would rock. I tried your SS in a GC and find the OEM knob to be too close too the shifter surround for my comfort. Going with a weighted knob anything larger than stock would add to this problem also.

I track the car a bit and would like to have a better shifting device in there, I missed gears because of less than stellar feedback from the OEM shifter.

The only thing that's preventing me from getting one is the final height of the shifter.

I know you guys have extenders for your short shifters, but they bring the knob up too much for me.

Anyways I just hope you guys can make a variant with the stock height, because I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one looking for this.
 

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Our short shifter is designed with a lowered overall height because the vast majority of the market is looking for this specification. I myself track my car a bit and I like the shifter closer to the steering wheel, in my case the extender is ok.

If you are looking to get the height close to stock, then many of our shift knobs would be a great option. The stock shift knob in the Genesis is quite large and our shift knobs are not larger. They offer the opportunity to adjust the height, as an example our Desert Eagle shift knob, adjusted all the way up on the Genesis short shifter will sit pretty much at the same place as the OEM shift knob the OEM shifter. As well, the extra weight will help with the precision of the shifter and positive gear engagement.

Thanks,

Frank
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