in most of ontario yes they are banned but there are certain regions (more north) are allowed... i think above sudbury or north bay or something:dunno: Don't know where you are, but their banned in Ontario.
I got Firestone Winterforce...for 4 tires, 4 steel 17" rims, studding, install and balancing, I paid $1260.what kind of tires did you get?
i bought 4 hankook W409 winter iPike for that price mounted on 17'' aluminium wheelsI got Firestone Winterforce...for 4 tires, 4 steel 17" rims, studding, install and balancing, I paid $1260.
I had hankook ipike on the elantra I use to have, it was cheaper than the name brand but just as good quality, if not better. I got a quote for 18" aluminium, I didn't wanna do aluminium though, so went with the 17" steels.i bought 4 hankook W409 winter iPike for that price mounted on 17'' aluminium wheels
I agree. With the rubber compounds/siping of winter tires these days there is no need for studs. Studs can also make you loose traction if you are driving on a HWY where the road is clear. Studs make a tire slip on bare pavement. I know they are for ice but somethimes roads get cleared up and studs become more of a problem. Just imo of course.No studs I was reading a debate between studded vs non-studded and they pretty much came to a conclusion that studded tires are "old technology" compaired to the newer tires with new tread designs and what not.
Exactly. If there is any clear spots on the pavement then studs are no good. Especially at high speeds they can be dangerous.You should only use studs if you're driving on ice/hard packed snow all the time as you have less grip with studs on pavement.
Well I must not have had " modern " tires then. On my work van they were killer. Way less grip on pavement. Even the tire shop that we deal with says this. They don't recommend studs ever. Studs are old school. And plecebo effect. What? Are you saying that because they are noisy that I feel like my ass end is slipping? I am not that dumb.studs do NOT make you lose grip on pavement.
Its placebo effect due to the noise.
On a properly studded MODERN tire, the studs will recess into the tire on pavement.
Ive run many winters on studded and non studded Nokian Hakkapaleta's.
anopther thing, the part of the stud that touches the road is tiny.
This is hallarious. Winter tires have the softest rubber compound of any tire. They have more grip then any other tire on pavement.Grilledcheez> if you were to drive the same tires without the studs, you would have equally reduced grip compared to your summer tires. An all out winter tire such as you have will always be like that on dry pavement. Studs or not.