I went in to buy some studs when I swapped my turbo. At the time the 2011s werent out. 2 dealerships asked me what year my Gc was and if my track model was an auto or standard....... Then when they didn't have the parts they precede to tell me its because the car haas only been out a year so they dont stock many parts. So they know its only been out a year but they have to ask what year model it is?!?!?
Who's The Idiot Here, Me or My Dealership?
So I went in to buy my overpriced toilet paper tube...er...oil filter from my dealership and, on a whim I decided to ask about upgrading to the stock LSD.
First a little background:
My dealership requires that I provide them with the last 8 digits (not the last 6 which HMF can obviously use to track my car payments, they need EIGHT) in order to give me an oil filter because there's so many of them and they don't want to give me the wrong one. To which I originally said: It's for the 3.8. To which the genius at the parts counter said...oh they're all different between base, gt, and track. To which I called her an idiot more or less because they all have the same engine. But I conceded to her request and got my VIN and yesterday I went to buy my 3rd oil filter and chatted her up to find out that there are, indeed, only 4 oil filters (supposedly) 2.0t, 3.8, 3.8sedan, and 4.6 (or whatever the v8 is) HA! But now to the story...
So I tell her I'm interested in getting a quote on the part price of the stock LSD...she tells me she doesn't think it's even available. I say why not...she says because there's probably no way to track it because they have to do everything with VIN numbers (inferred: so they couldn't get a part for a car that didn't originally have that part.) So I go :squint:...? And follow up with an :ugh: to which her response is (paraphrasing) I mean, it would probably be a lot of paperwork and I'm not even sure how we would do that and if it could even be done. To which I say okay, well my sales rep told me that I can install aftermarket parts on my car and as long as it's approved by Hyundai and the work is done by Hyundai techs at the shop they'll honor my warranty. So who would I talk to about that? To which she responds
:dunno: To which I respond :squint: and follow up with well if it could be done who would I talk to about install prices, because I'd go with the stock lsd to retain my warranty. To which she goes :dunno: and stutters out a well I don't think we could even do the work because that's not something Hyundai really trains us on and it's not just mechanical, there's all sorts of sensors and electrical work that has to be done and I don't know if there's even a conversion kit to do that because the cars aren't mechanical drive they have electrical drive too (inferred: and they're obviously completely different even thought they have the same mfing engine in them just like the different trims all have different oil filters...oh wait...they don't...:squint and I don't think we could really do that I think you'd be on your own. To which I start to get :mad2::mad2::mad2: and poke the bear and go, well how is it then that owners are selling their limited slips to non lsd owners without a problem and multiple companies offer aftermarket lsds that are direct fits?! To which she goes I'm sorry but I think you're on your own with this one to which I go thanks and walk away.
Is it just me or is my dealership full of idiots? Isn't the LSD basically a drop in? I'm assuming this "electric drive" she's talking about is the Traction Control System which I thought just killed the engine til the wheel stopped spinning...but maybe I'm wrong. I'm sure there's some sensors in there somewhere, but I'd also guess that all of the control coding for anything the computer does is coded into every trim model with the same engine. It doesn't seem cost effective or necessary to make multiple ECUs any more than it is cost effective to wire the car differently for cars that don't get options...they all have the plugs...there's just nothing plugged in...(in my experience with domestics) Could anybody fill me in? because this sounds like a bunch of CRAP to me and I'm really pissed that my dealership sucks because the next closest one is like 20 miles away and they had WORSE customer service than mine. :mad2::mad2::mad2:
/rant
First a little background:
My dealership requires that I provide them with the last 8 digits (not the last 6 which HMF can obviously use to track my car payments, they need EIGHT) in order to give me an oil filter because there's so many of them and they don't want to give me the wrong one. To which I originally said: It's for the 3.8. To which the genius at the parts counter said...oh they're all different between base, gt, and track. To which I called her an idiot more or less because they all have the same engine. But I conceded to her request and got my VIN and yesterday I went to buy my 3rd oil filter and chatted her up to find out that there are, indeed, only 4 oil filters (supposedly) 2.0t, 3.8, 3.8sedan, and 4.6 (or whatever the v8 is) HA! But now to the story...
So I tell her I'm interested in getting a quote on the part price of the stock LSD...she tells me she doesn't think it's even available. I say why not...she says because there's probably no way to track it because they have to do everything with VIN numbers (inferred: so they couldn't get a part for a car that didn't originally have that part.) So I go :squint:...? And follow up with an :ugh: to which her response is (paraphrasing) I mean, it would probably be a lot of paperwork and I'm not even sure how we would do that and if it could even be done. To which I say okay, well my sales rep told me that I can install aftermarket parts on my car and as long as it's approved by Hyundai and the work is done by Hyundai techs at the shop they'll honor my warranty. So who would I talk to about that? To which she responds
:dunno: To which I respond :squint: and follow up with well if it could be done who would I talk to about install prices, because I'd go with the stock lsd to retain my warranty. To which she goes :dunno: and stutters out a well I don't think we could even do the work because that's not something Hyundai really trains us on and it's not just mechanical, there's all sorts of sensors and electrical work that has to be done and I don't know if there's even a conversion kit to do that because the cars aren't mechanical drive they have electrical drive too (inferred: and they're obviously completely different even thought they have the same mfing engine in them just like the different trims all have different oil filters...oh wait...they don't...:squint and I don't think we could really do that I think you'd be on your own. To which I start to get :mad2::mad2::mad2: and poke the bear and go, well how is it then that owners are selling their limited slips to non lsd owners without a problem and multiple companies offer aftermarket lsds that are direct fits?! To which she goes I'm sorry but I think you're on your own with this one to which I go thanks and walk away.Is it just me or is my dealership full of idiots? Isn't the LSD basically a drop in? I'm assuming this "electric drive" she's talking about is the Traction Control System which I thought just killed the engine til the wheel stopped spinning...but maybe I'm wrong. I'm sure there's some sensors in there somewhere, but I'd also guess that all of the control coding for anything the computer does is coded into every trim model with the same engine. It doesn't seem cost effective or necessary to make multiple ECUs any more than it is cost effective to wire the car differently for cars that don't get options...they all have the plugs...there's just nothing plugged in...(in my experience with domestics) Could anybody fill me in? because this sounds like a bunch of CRAP to me and I'm really pissed that my dealership sucks because the next closest one is like 20 miles away and they had WORSE customer service than mine. :mad2::mad2::mad2:
/rant
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To me most of what you were told is complete BS, but the VIN thing is familiar to me, last time I went to buy Power steering fluid, they asked me for my VIN#, to which I relied "It's 123ABC...blablabla", got A funny look, and was asked again for the VIN#, to which I argued not to give out, then settled on sending my mom pickup the stuff for me...LOL.So I went in to buy my overpriced toilet paper tube...er...oil filter from my dealership and, on a whim I decided to ask about upgrading to the stock LSD.
First a little background:
My dealership requires that I provide them with the last 8 digits (not the last 6 which HMF can obviously use to track my car payments, they need EIGHT) in order to give me an oil filter because there's so many of them and they don't want to give me the wrong one. To which I originally said: It's for the 3.8. To which the genius at the parts counter said...oh they're all different between base, gt, and track. To which I called her an idiot more or less because they all have the same engine. But I conceded to her request and got my VIN and yesterday I went to buy my 3rd oil filter and chatted her up to find out that there are, indeed, only 4 oil filters (supposedly) 2.0t, 3.8, 3.8sedan, and 4.6 (or whatever the v8 is) HA! But now to the story...
So I tell her I'm interested in getting a quote on the part price of the stock LSD...she tells me she doesn't think it's even available. I say why not...she says because there's probably no way to track it because they have to do everything with VIN numbers (inferred: so they couldn't get a part for a car that didn't originally have that part.) So I go :squint:...? And follow up with an :ugh: to which her response is (paraphrasing) I mean, it would probably be a lot of paperwork and I'm not even sure how we would do that and if it could even be done. To which I say okay, well my sales rep told me that I can install aftermarket parts on my car and as long as it's approved by Hyundai and the work is done by Hyundai techs at the shop they'll honor my warranty. So who would I talk to about that? To which she responds
Is it just me or is my dealership full of idiots? Isn't the LSD basically a drop in? I'm assuming this "electric drive" she's talking about is the Traction Control System which I thought just killed the engine til the wheel stopped spinning...but maybe I'm wrong. I'm sure there's some sensors in there somewhere, but I'd also guess that all of the control coding for anything the computer does is coded into every trim model with the same engine. It doesn't seem cost effective or necessary to make multiple ECUs any more than it is cost effective to wire the car differently for cars that don't get options...they all have the plugs...there's just nothing plugged in...(in my experience with domestics) Could anybody fill me in? because this sounds like a bunch of CRAP to me and I'm really pissed that my dealership sucks because the next closest one is like 20 miles away and they had WORSE customer service than mine. :mad2::mad2::mad2:
/rant
Also, 2 weeks ago I called to order some OEM Fog light surrounds and camber bolts, and again nothing could be done without my VIN#...I said eff it and ordered online, from a very nice member here.
I think Hyundai might want to track w/e they sell to who, just in case warranty issues arise I guess...
Now, as far as the service dept. not being able/trained to do that type of work, well unfortunately most Dealers do not have the qualified staff to do that type of work.
Aside from the Genesis Sedan and Coupe, there never was any RWD car sold by Hyundai, so the actual experience may have come from techs that will work on our cars, when the actual problems arise.
Lastly, I would check to make sure that the ECU form a NON-LSD model is working the same way that a LSD equipped model, in regards to the TCS.
If the programmers in charge of the TCS were a bit wise, they could have programmed the LSD TC software to make use of the rear brakes to actually engage the LSD by only actuating 1 rear brake caliper, Thus creating A Tq vector, since the TCS has individual control of each caliper action.
Anyways I know of members on here who did it, so it's not impossible.
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