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anyone try both types break system?

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#1 ·
Can anyone tell me what difference between brembo breake and low model breake system?I am looking low model 2.0 model but scare the break system is not that good enought?????THX
 
#2 ·
Brembo:
  • expensive maintenance and replacement parts
  • Amazing resistance to abuse
  • OEM brembo pads are shitty
  • Parts are compatible with other models (STI, EVO...)
  • A must if you are gonna track the car

Base brake:
  • More then adequate for daily use
  • Cheaper to maintain at the dealer
  • less aftermarket support
  • similar stopping power to OEM Brembos for street use but with a bit less initial bite
  • poor track performance, brake fading...
 
#4 ·
Base brake:
[*]poor track performance, brake fading...
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I wouldn't call it poor. Find some track compound pads for it and flush your system with decent fluid and you're set for all but hardcore racing events.

Brembos won't save you from brake fade either. Their slightly increased mass from caliper + rotor helps a little, but it's not the end all of fade.
 
#6 ·
i've driven a 3.8 base and comparing it to my track:

1. yes the initial bite is not at the level of the stock brembos
2. yes you see fade quicker
3. no i don't feel like i would have less control over the car, just have to think ahead slightly more
4. and the brembos just look cooler :p
 
#7 · (Edited)
Thing is, I always felt that the Brembos give faster initial grab and less effort to reach all out panic stopping.

OEM brakes often scare me when in a surprise situation because you have to stand on them to really bite hard and the time for the peddle to move and firm up seems like an eternity.

But the brembos seem to react fast and easy to modulate from moderate to extreme with little effort. However, for OEM when standing on them you are putting so much effort into the peddle that you are stiff and unable to moderate your effort which makes moderation after full baking very hard to do hence the need for antilock cuz you aint in a position to do threshold braking anyway. :eek:

Brembos have a nicer brake feel from light to extreme but OEM is ok for light then as you go beyond moderate braking you can't judge anymore and you tend to underestimate then end up standing on em. "Oh, better slow down... woah.. Slow DOWN... WAAAAAAAHHH IM GUNNA DIE" :p

(Mind you, much of this experience comes from my accord which had the identical calipers as stock non Brembo Genesis)

Of course if I add the after market pads its better still!!
But for those on stock pads in a non Brembo set up, might I suggest the Hawk performance pads, they did wonders for my old Accord.

PS... yep, Brembos look kewl as well on my 3.8 track. (Arrgh, I'm such a rice boy now!!)
 
#8 ·
I had a 2.0T GT (Track), then a 3.8 with base brakes, then I upgraded to OEM Brembos.

Going from Brembos to base brakes was like night and day, just didnt have the bite I was used to. For daily duty the base brakes are fine but there is nothing high performance about them thats for sure.
 
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#12 ·
Well, I owned a 3.8 GT and traded in for a 3.8 Track. The base brakes are more than fine. In higher speeds to panic stops the brembos do perform better. If money is not a concern for the short term and more importantly the long term why not get the track package? I say this because in my case (not speaking for everyone and their situation) it cost a lost more to upgrade after to the brembos and track features after the fact.
 
#14 ·
I drive a 3.8 base model and my brother has a 2.0T GT (Canadian Track).
Since I have access to both models on my driveway I'm guessing I have a lot more experience behind the wheel of both models more than most here.

My take:
Brembo's are awesome! You feel them firm up and start grabbing very quickly. For daily driving, it's probably way too much to be quite honest. I find myself waiting until the last minute to stop while driving it (a terrible habit to get into).

The regular brakes are really quite good as well. Just take a look at what other manufacturers offer in terms of breaks. These rotors are much larger than the average cars. What that equates to, is there is no reason to be concerned about the regular brakes. They perform very well for normal driving.
For those that are feeling that they aren't adequate, all I can say is your are either driving way too fast, or you break way too late.
I've had a few oh **** moments, and I've never felt the brakes weren't going to stop me in time.
They aren't as good, but i've had my car out to Auto-X a couple times, and i never felt the brakes were lacking at all.

The first reply really sums it up. Brembos are for high performance. They cost a LOT of money to maintain. they are best suited for cars that will see the track, or at least Auto-X.
If you are just a street driver, there's no need whatsoever for the track package.
 
#17 ·
If you take the advantages of the Brembo's (fast grab and easy to control) you can get most of this with higher grade pads on the base set up. Then you get solid grab and easy control without having the expense.

The only things you give up is the thermal capacity of the huge brembo rotors (important for track) and the stiffness of the caliper that helps with feel and firmness.
 
#16 ·
as others have stated the brembos are definitely noticeable over the stock brakes. When I was test driving for the first time I compared track to the regular package, and the first thing I noticed was how much better the brembos were compared to the regular. 2nd thing I noticed was how little body roll there was in the track pkg