Can you quote a source? The HMA service information that I found shows that a simple push of the button turns it off.

 

yea im finding this very unlinkely that this is the case......

 

wow nice...

but a source would be nice

 

i doubt this is true, when you turn the car all the way off and back on, it resets the computer.

 

Turn the car off, then to the on position without starting, then on, don't turn off from there. I don't have a source thats referable because it's not supposed to ever be fully off, so it's not documented, I found this from a tech, and its worked when I tried it a few days ago. As is the case on many cars, Toyota, Honda are two that are common, when the system is off, it's not off, it's just turned down. This turns it off fully.

 

Doesn't matter whether it's true of not. It's good advice. Turn off traction control BEFORE actually starting it up. Get in, get the car to come on to where the dials come on, hit the ESC/traction control switch, start the car, and drive away without the limiting devices in plays. A good practice that I'll be sure to use.

Thanks.

 

How does this work with the push button start? I haven't see/used it yet so I don't know..

 

don't push the brake, hit the button twice to turn the car 'on' (no foot on the brake and once is accessory, twice is on) then push the brake and hit start again. Our car is a V6 Track, in Nordschleife Gray so with the push button start.

 

Summary of how to turn traction control FULLY off (correct me if I'm wrong):

With key'ed ignition:
1.Turn the key to the 'on' position without starting the car
2. Hit the Traction control button, so that Traction Control is off
3. Start the car, and drive away.
4. If you happen to turn the car all the way off, repeat from step 1

With the keyless iginition:
1. Get in the car with the key in your pocket, or inside the car where it needs to be
2. Without touching anything else (brake, etc), hit the 'Start' button twice to turn the car 'on' but without actually starting the car.
3. Hit the Traction control button, so that Traction Control is off
4. Hit the 'Start' button (with your foot on the brake) to actually Start the car, and drive away.
5. If you happen to turn the car all the way off, repeat from step 1

 

With the keyless iginition:
1. Get in the car with the key in your pocket, or inside the car where it needs to be
2. Without touching anything else (brake, etc), hit the 'Start' button twice to turn the car 'on' but without actually starting the car.
3. Hit the Traction control button, so that Traction Control is off
4. Hit the 'Start' button (with your foot on the brake) to actually Start the car, and drive away.
5. If you happen to turn the car all the way off, repeat from step 1

This is the exact way to turn off traction control in a pre-2007 Lexus IS350. I think someone is thinking they can apply this to a Genesis Coupe.

 

Interesting.

Thanks for the better explanation Mcfly.

 

Don't thank me, thank Jase, he brought the info to us, I just put into an understandable, step by step, format.

You're welcome, though.

This should be a sticky.

 

Sticky!!!

 

This is pointless. It is now well known that Traction Control is completely off when it says that it is :rofl:

My father has the same system in his Sonata and trust me when it says it's off; it's offfff

Hma Service confirms the same for the Genesis Coupe.

 

Well, as soon as my brother receives his car, I will be trying it both ways. Gives me an excuse to burn up some of his tires.

All the same, thanks jase for the insight.

When I hit the traction control button in my bimmer, it's completely off. I went through my 1st set of tires rather quickly proving it.:rofl:

 

Is it okay to turn it off?

My friend who drives a R35 GTR down here turned his off, and the dealership found out and voided is warranty T_T"

 

Yeah, but can you really do anything in an R35 without voiding the warranty? The first time into the dealer for service the ECU would snitch about all the fun we had together.:rofl:

 

This will be very good news if it works! I remember reading a review about it only turning off something like 20% according to the writer of the article and that when Hyundai was drifting the car they had to pull the TCS fuse.

 

This is one of those things that I somehow doubt will be done until someone opens the ECU and reads the code... lol

 

Has this been technically confirmed?
As I just hit the switch, while the car was running, and did a smokey and the bandit type burnout with no issues.

 

Well, there's a rumor coming from the KDM cars, that with the traction control fully off, the motor responded with 25hp more.

So, it may be possible that you could still do a burn out with it partially off with just hitting the button, but then with 25hp more you could do a REAALLY Healthy burnout with it completely off.

:dunno:

Time will tell. Someone that test drives one, let us know your findings please.

 

IDK man. When I drove my friends Z all I did was hit T/C off at a stand still and it went completely off while the car was on. *shrugs* I love getting sideways.

 

Hmm... I'm going to have to disagree.

Pressing the traction control button turns off traction control in my car.

How do I know this? Well, the nice smoky powerslide through an intersection was a start, then the four or five snowy donuts in my work parking lot clued me in.

About the intersection... I decided it was time to test this traction control myth, so I turned off the traction control and walked on the gas a little harder than normal. It was controlled and stable, but a TON of fun.
Oh, I've missed owning a rear wheel drive

 

^Have you done back to back tests side by side with another car at the same level of acceleration, to find out if the "special" way to turn it off, is different than just hitting the button anytime?

If you haven't then, I'm not convinced one way or another.

I've requested exactly this to another member, and he said he will be doing it soon. Hoping for the sooner the better.

 

Well, as far as any special power boost, I won't believe it till I see it dyno or stopwatch proven. Back to back tests against another vehicle just allows for too many variables to be a good scientific test imo.

As far as traction control being turned off... it's OFF when you press the button at any time, just trust me on that

 

...Back to back tests against another vehicle just allows for too many variables to be a good scientific test imo...

If that's what you believe, then you aren't doing it right.

Go from a roll, say a 40 punch. Have both cars in 2nd gear ready to go with the clutch in... Honk 3 times and then punch it. Do it with traction control on, off, and the "theoretical" completely off method.

You obviously need a car that is similar in acceleration as yours. You really only need one gear, but the higher the speed the more the difference will show itself... so if you can both shift equally as fast, try the next gear... but try not to do anything illegal... I won't have it.

 

Well my question is can anybody feel 20%? It may indeed be fully off with this technique, or with just pressing the button. But would there be a noticeable difference between 0 and 20%, i mean 80% off would still smoke tires just my assumption. But i doubt that hyundai in good conscious or any other car company would allow for a complete 100% de-activation of a safety feature; simply due to a lawsuit. So this technique would make sense in my eyes, since A you have to know about it and B you actively have to do a feature that is not endorsed or publicized by the manufacturer. For me it says "If you do this, its not 'our' (insert manufacturer) fault your stupid enough to turn off a safety feature" so as not to be sued.

 

You would be able to feel 20%.

And yes, they are covered because it is the drivers responsibility to remain in control of his or her vehicle at all times. If you are not capable of operating a motor vehicle safely and within the bounds of the law, you can be found guilty and have your license removed... Sooo, if you try to sue Hyundai to cover your inability to drive, you will go in and say to the judge "I could not control my vehicle even though I willfully pressed the button to disable traction control and ignored the warning light that says 'trac off' ". This is admission of guilt, or in this case, inability and there is a fair chance the judge will find you unfit to operate a motor vehicle and order you re-tested at the very least.

Same thing often happens in cases of traffic violations where the defendant says they could not stop even though they pressed the brakes, they usually get hit with a ticket for operating an unsafe motor vehicle. Or when they were speeding, they blame it on a malfunctioning speedometer which can result in a fix-it ticket and sometimes a ticket for knowingly operating a motor vehicle with faulty equipment.

People have tried pretty much all these things before and that's why there are blanket laws that allow for tickets for improper or malfunctioning equipment.

Of course, your mileage may vary and depending on the judge, if they are retarded enough they just might award the case to you even though it is not Hyundai's fault that you crashed... Stranger things have happened.

 

simple solution. someone just ask beyond redline to strap up their car to the dyno again and see what happens with it on, with it off, and with it defeated. i doubt they would mind. well i guess that's just for the power gain rumor.

how they hell would you test traction control fully defeated???

 

what???

my comment is BS ???

the guy says the ECU is resetted when you turn off the car, this is TOTALLY false, there are no "resets" of any kind when shutting of the engine or getting the key to the "off" position.

 

I don't think he means the ECU...that would be pretty stupid if every time you shut off your car, the ECU resets. I think he means the "computer" that controls the stability control (so in essence the yaw sensors et al.)

And Tufast, I am with you, both my mom's 2000 323i and 2004 M3 turn traction/stability control off with the push of the ASC (323i) or the DSC (M3) buttons. In my friend's 2008 128i, a single press of the DSC button turns off the traction control, and holding the button for like a second turns both the traction and stability controls.

 

What is the advantage of turning off the traction control?